Re: [ga] Voting rules, take 4

[Jonathan Weinberg <weinberg@mail.msen.com>]

	I'm going to vote for Harald's proposal myself.  But I'm doing so on the
basis of having examined the alternative Eric put forward, and having
concluded (as I explained in the snipped portion of my message) that I
think IRV would be misplaced for issue ballots, and is not too different
from Harald's proposal for candidate elections.  I appreciate the effort
Harald has put in, but we need to vote based on our views of the merits,
rather than simply concluding that we're too fatigued to do anything other
than approve whatever's on the table.

Jon



At 09:59 PM 6/26/00 +0200, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>At 15:46 26.06.2000 -0400, Jonathan Weinberg wrote:
>>         I've been letting my email slide, but I sat down today and read 
>> the entire
>>[ga] voting thread.  Some thoughts:
>>
>>         1. It's not well taken, I think, to tell Eric that we can ignore
his
>>proposals aside in passing version 1.0 now, and that he should put them
>>forward as proposals for version 1.1.  The reason is that Harald's ruleset
>>includes a provision designed to make the rules *hard* to change in
>>subsequent versions -- it provides that the rules cannot be changed, once
>>adopted, without a supermajority and a special quorum.  The point of
>>Harald's Rule 5 is to promote stability by requiring that even proposed
>>changes *with the support of a majority of the membership* cannot be
>>enacted unless they surmount the 2/3 hurdle.  So this is the last time that
>>competing proposals will contend on a level playing field; once we first
>>adopt a ruleset, whatever we have already adopted will have a huge
>>procedural advantage over any proposed changes.  As a result, it's worth
>>focusing on Eric's proposal now.
>
>I intend to declare defeat and go home if the current proposal does not 
>surmount the 2/3 + quorum hurdle.
>
>                     Harald
>
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>Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
>Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
>
>
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