Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of William Walsh for mass postings

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

To:  David Farrar <david@farrar.com>

Dear David

On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:34 PM (AEST), you wrote:
Subject: Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of William Walsh for mass postings

> I make no comment about the content of Mr Walsh's posts as this ruling did not
> judge them.  He has been suspended only for breaching the posting limit.
>
> Having perused the archives for this period I find the following have also
> breached the 5 posts per day limit.
>
> Chris Ambler - breached on 12, 14, 15 April
> Bradley Thorton - breached (by double) on 15 April
> Patrick Corliss - breached by double on 14 and 16 April
> Roeland Meyer - breached on 11, 12, 13, 15 and 17 April
> Dave Crocker - breached on 13 and 14 April
> Kent Crispin - breached on 17 April
>
> I am in no way asking for these people to be "disciplined" also.  I merely
> suggest that the decision to suspend Mr Walsh on *the grounds stated* be
> revisited as it seems on the published grounds, there are another half dozen
or
> more people who have done much the same.
>
> Deciding whether a post is abusive or not is always going to be a subjective
> judgement of some sort.  However applying a posting limit should IMO be done
> far more objectively.

Whilst you are not asking for these people to be disciplined, this is, in fact,
a likely effect of your complaint as you clearly recognise.  A similar effort is
required to counter Mr Walsh's argument that there is, or was, no limit in the
first place.

However, you do have a valid point.  In this respect, I would advise that there
has never been any intention to enforce the daily limit blindly.  The intention
of the restriction was to reduce the overall "noise" on the list.

Thus if a person occasionally goes over the limit, and posts six or even seven,
emails, I would personally not consider this of utmost gravity.  But what we are
talking about here, as far as I can see, is a systematic and deliberate breach
of list protocols.  This is exactly the problem, and the harm, that the posting
rules were introduced to combat in the first place.  It is not a minor matter.

There are many examples of "flame wars" on this and other lists.  My feeling is
that we have constructive work to do and even your post is not assisting that
task.  I have, for example, spent much of the past week working on list research
and debate.

To make it clear I am not just talking about an hour or two, here or there, I am
talking about sustained effort for days and days.  With very little to show for
it.  In fact, I genuinely feel this is very much a wasted effort unless we have
your support.

As I have been named (and now warned) I have checked my posts for the days in
question.  This is not a trivial task because I am in Australia and perhaps 19
hours difference in time from the West Coast of the States.  The details are
below for ease of checking by anyone on the list who feels they need to do that.

On 14 April 2001, the list archive shows that I made no less than 9 postings.
By my Australian time five of these postings were made on 14 April and four were
made on 15 April 2001.  The list archive shows one posting was made on 15 April

So this brings my posting to the exact limit of five on both 14 and 15 April.

The 16 April is more problematic.  The list archives show 16 postings but, by my
Australian time 10 of the were made on 17 April 2001.  This leaves 6 postings on
the 16 April.  One of these, the last post on my 16 April  was an official
notice about "Excessive Postings".  It was my reminder to the list of the
posting limit.

So this brings my posting to the exact limit of five on 16 April also.

However, I am now left with 10 postings on 17 April  2001.  This was, of course,
the day that I tried to bring the list to order in my official capacity as
Co-Chair.

POSTINGS ON 17 APRIL 2001

(1)    Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML
(2)    [ga] The International Association of Top Level Domains ("IATLD")
(3)    Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed
(4)    [ga] Chinese Internet
(5)    [ga] Keeping Up The Barriers
(6)    [ga] List Rules and Protocols
(7)    [ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols
(8)    [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly
(9)    [ga] Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
(10)    Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols

By my count, five of these namely (2), (3), (6), (7) and (8) were clearly
official
And without checking, I think you'll find that I signed them as such.

So this brings my posting to the exact limit of five on 17 April also.

It is clear that I have taken great care to maintain my posting rate at exactly
the five posts per day limit.  The fact that I reminded other people about the
limit shows the genuine nature of my compliance.  I ask the the Chair to lift
the warning

You noted that Christopher Ambler breached the posting limit on 12, 14, 15
April.  You will also recall that much of this was a debate with Mr Walsh.  I
leave each of you to make your own judgment on its merits.  Mr Ambler is not now
subscribed.

However, it was to minimise such unnecessary posting that I posted the onlist
reminder of the posting limts on 16 April, my local time.  I also intervened the
next day.  It is as clear to me as could be that officials are entitled to
expect some co-operation and goodwill from those who only so recently elected
them.

On Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:53 AM (AEST)
William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com> wrote:

> Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:55:04 AM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> > Thank you for the counting.
> > William Walsh had been previously warned about the posting limit, and has
> > chosen to go on "shouting".
>
> No limit was in effect.  In fact, no limit is in effect today.

Many reference have been made to the posting limit and it was clearly adopted by
the present administration by my posting addressed to Mr Ambler and Mr Walsh.

From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>; William X. Walsh
<william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:19 PM
Subject: [ga] Excessive Postings

> Hi Everybody
>
> I can see this particular issue taking quite a few more postings to resolve.
> For the sake of list decorum,  perhaps we should all try to keep to our five
> postings per day limit.
>
> Meanwhile I'd ask the Chair Elect to call for volunteers to act as List
Monitor.

In case it is not still not clear, I again remind everybody of this list that
there is a limit of five postings per day.  This is calculated on the basis of
the posting party's own local time ending at midnight.  The List Monitors are
given the discretion to allow minor and occasional breaches in circumstances of
genuine attempts to comply.

List Monitors should also consider the "harm" that this ruling is designed to
address when applying their discretion towards postings over the daily limit.

Yours faithfully
Patrick Corliss

Note:    Although this posting contains an official reminder I must include it
in my daily posting count.  Supporting documentation about my postings follows:

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2001 Apr 13
Re: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Christopher
Ambler
RE: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Roeland Meyer
Re: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Bret Fausett
Re: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Joanna Lane
Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Joanna Lane
RE: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Roeland Meyer
Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace DPF
Re[4]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) William X. Walsh
Re[2]: [ga] Collisions in Namespace William X. Walsh
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2001 Apr 13
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jeff Field
[ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Milton Mueller
RE: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Jeff Field
RE: [ga] Collisions in Namespace JandL
[ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... PacificRoot Hostmaster
RE: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Roeland Meyer
Re[2]: [ga] Collisions in Namespace William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... Alexander Svensson
[ga] Confirmation of our new Chairs Joop Teernstra
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jefsey Morfin
[ga] motion to the Chair Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic Robin Miller
Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] motion to the Chair Kristy McKee
RE: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic Roeland Meyer
Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Joanna Lane
Re: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Marc Schneiders
[ga] New.net tactics Sotiris
Re[2]: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... JandL
RE: [ga] Collisions in RFC 1535 space Harald Tveit Alvestrand
[ga] Call for a Working Group Kendall Dawson
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] New.net tactics Jefsey Morfin
RE: [ga] Collisions in RFC 1535 space Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group JandL
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) JandL
Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Bruce James
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
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2001 Apr 14
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Kendall Dawson
Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
[ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Erica Roberts
Re: [ga] motion to the Chair Joop Teernstra
Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
[ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jeff Field
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Sandy Harris
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
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2001 Apr 14
Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
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POSTING 1 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
[ga] ICANN Under Fire Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Cc: Andrew McLaughlin, ICANN <ajm@icann.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: [ga] ICANN Under Fire
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POSTING 2 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
[ga] Confusion in the Namespace Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:38 PM
Subject: [ga] Confusion in the Namespace
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Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dave Crocker
[ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace William X. Walsh
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POSTING 3 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
[ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:49 PM
Subject: [ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace
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POSTING 4 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
[ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Sandy Harris <sandy@storm.ca>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:55 PM
Subject: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space
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[ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace Andy Gardner
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
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POSTING 5 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group
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Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... Alexander Svensson
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Roeland Meyer
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Sandy Harris
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Derek Conant
RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Confirmation of our new Chairs Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] vote appeal Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Jefsey Morfin
Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Derek Conant
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Christopher Ambler
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space John Charles Broomfield
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POSTING 6 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 15 APR 2001
[ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Patrick Corliss
To: "Jonathan Weinberg" <weinberg@mail.msen.com>
Subject: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind
From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:17:49 +1000
Cc: "[GA]" <ga@dnso.org>
Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
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[ga] Re: confusing.... Derek Conant
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
Re: [ga] Re: confusing.... Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Derek Conant
Re: [ga] Re: confusing.... Derek Conant
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POSTING 7 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #2 of 15 APR 2001
[ga] Call for a Working Group Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Jeff Field <jfield@aaaq.com>
Cc: Derek Conant <dconant@dnsga.org>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 8:18 AM
Subject: [ga] Call for a Working Group
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Re: [ga] Re: confusing.... Dave Crocker
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POSTING 8 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #3 of 15 APR 2001
[ga] Non-Disclosure of Vested Interests Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: [ga] Non-Disclosure of Vested Interests
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POSTING 9 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #4 of 15 APR 2001
Re: [ga] List decorum Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] List decorum
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2001 Apr 15
[ga] Sorry - wong answer John Palmer
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
Re[2]: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] List decorum Dassa
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] List decorum Dave Crocker
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] Sorry - wong answer PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Derek Conant
RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Sandy Harris
Re: [ga] Sorry - wong answer John Palmer
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space John Charles Broomfield
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2001 Apr 15
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Derek Conant
Re: [ga] Sorry - wong answer PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Christopher Ambler
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group John Palmer
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
RE: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Roeland Meyer
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Dassa
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dassa
RE: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Dassa
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dassa
RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
Re[6]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... JandL
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) JandL
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Dave Crocker
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Dave Crocker
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Roeland Meyer
Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group John Charles Broomfield
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Thomas Roessler
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group JandL
Re: Re[6]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
Re[8]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
[ga] sub-ML for the request of a WG-Inclusive Name Space Management Jefsey
Morfin
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Jefsey Morfin
[ga] Dave: "they are free" Jefsey Morfin
[ga] WIPO Seeks Comment On Domain Name Process Darrell Greenwood
RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jeff Field
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] sub-ML for the request of a WG-Inclusive Name Space Management Roberto
Gaetano
[ga] WG direction. Roeland Meyer
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jeff Field
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Sandy Harris
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Marc Schneiders
[ga] Re: WG direction. Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
Re[2]: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Patrick Greenwell
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POSTING 1 ON 15 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 16 APR 2001
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free"
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Re: [ga] sub-ML for the request of a WG-Inclusive Name SpaceManagement Joanna
Lane
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2001 Apr 16
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
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POSTING 1 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #2 of 16 APR 2001
[ga] Atlantic Root's Disclaimer Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Patrick Greenwell <patrick@stealthgeeks.net>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; Leah Gallegos, JandL <jandl@jandl.com>; Jeff Field
<jfield@aaaq.com>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: [ga] Atlantic Root's Disclaimer
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RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
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2001 Apr 16
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POSTING 2 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #3 of 16 APR 2001
[ga] Fracturing the Internet Patrick Corliss
To: "[GA]" <ga@dnso.org>
Subject: [ga] Fracturing the Internet
From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:21:04 +1000
Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
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[ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Milton Mueller
Re[2]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Re: WG direction. Christopher Ambler
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
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POSTING 3 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #4 of 16 APR 2001
[ga] Demanding Inclusion Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: [ga] Demanding Inclusion
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RE: [ga] Fracturing the Internet Dassa
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Marc Schneiders
[ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Milton Mueller
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POSTING 4 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #5 of 16 APR 2001
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Roberto Gaetano <ga_chair@hotmail.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space
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RE: [ga] Fracturing the Internet Andy Gardner
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POSTING 5 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #6 of 16 APR 2001
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Roberto Gaetano <ga_chair@hotmail.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free"
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Re: [ga] Demanding Inclusion Christopher Ambler
Re[4]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
Re: Re[4]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
Re[6]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
Re[2]: [ga] Demanding Inclusion William X. Walsh
Re: Re[6]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
Re[8]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
Re: Re[8]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
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POSTING 6 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #7 of 16 APR 2001
[ga] Excessive Postings Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>; William X. Walsh
<william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:19 PM
Subject: [ga] Excessive Postings
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Re: [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Dave Crocker
Re[10]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Sandy Harris
Re: Re[10]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
Re[12]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
[ga] Additional Mailing Lists? babybows.com
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Derek Conant
[ga] List Monitors Needed babybows.com
Re: Re[12]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Sotiris
RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Jeff Field
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jeff Field
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? DPF
[ga] JCB's post Jefsey Morfin
[ga] the probable final solution: Jeff Field's wrong analogy Jefsey Morfin
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Joop Teernstra
RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Joop Teernstra
Re: [ga] JCB's post John Charles Broomfield
[ga] iCANN's protection Jefsey Morfin
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Marc Schneiders
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POSTING 7 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 17 APR 2001
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Darryl Lynch <dassa@dhs.org>
Cc: Marc Schneiders <marc@schneiders.org>; <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML
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Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed Joanna Lane
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POSTING 8 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #2 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] The International Association of Top Level Domains ("IATLD") Patrick
Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Gennady Pritsker <gp@iatld.org>; Gennady Pritsker <gennady@iatld.org>
Cc: auDA, Board <board@auda.org.au>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:01 AM
Subject: [ga] The International Association of Top Level Domains ("IATLD")
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[ga] Re: iCANN's protection Roberto Gaetano
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POSTING 9 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #3 of 17 APR 2001
Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; Danny Younger <webmaster@babybows.com>; [GA]
<ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed
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Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Roberto Gaetano
RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kristy McKee
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Bruce James
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joanna Lane
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? DPF
Testbed and precedent (Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free") Marc Schneiders
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Sandy Harris
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POSTING 10 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #4 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] Chinese Internet Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Sandy Harris <sandy@storm.ca>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; Kristy McKee <k@widgital.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:59 AM
Subject: [ga] Chinese Internet
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2001 Apr 16
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kristy McKee
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Roberto Gaetano
Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kristy McKee
2001 Apr 17
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joop Teernstra
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Bruce James
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Kent Crispin
Re: Testbed and precedent (Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free") Kent Crispin
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Sotiris
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kent Crispin
Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Christopher Ambler
[ga] Re: [icann-announce] Revised .com/.net/.org Agreements Forwardedto Commerce
Department Joanna Lane
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kent Crispin
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POSTING 11 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #5 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] Keeping Up The Barriers Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Kent Crispin <kent@SONGBIRD.COM>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; Marc Schneiders <marc@schneiders.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:49 PM
Subject: [ga] Keeping Up The Barriers
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Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Christopher Ambler
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POSTING 12 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #6 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>
Cc: Michael Froomkin <froomkin@law.miami.edu>; Kent Crispin <kent@SONGBIRD.COM>;
[GA] <ga@dnso.org>; [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: [ga] List Rules and Protocols
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[ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols Christopher Ambler
Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
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POSTING 13 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #7 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:55 PM
Subject: [ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols
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[ga] An agenda for the SIG "WG-Inclusive Name Space Management Proposition"
Jefsey Morfin
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POSTING 14 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #8 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly Patrick
Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly
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Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? DPF
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection DPF
[ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly William X.
Walsh
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POSTING 15 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME -  POSTING #9 of 17 APR 2001
[ga] Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: [ga] Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
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[ga] Re: Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
[ga] The fall of the iCANN Empire? Jefsey Morfin
RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joanna Lane
Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
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POSTING 16 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #10 of 17 APR 2001
Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; Harald Tveit Alvestrand
<Harald@Alvestrand.no>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
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Re[2]: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joanna Lane
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Dave Crocker
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection DPF
[ga] Policy vs Contracts? DPF
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML Dassa
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joop Teernstra
Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joop Teernstra
Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
Re: [ga] Policy vs Contracts? Jefsey Morfin
Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joop Teernstra
RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
[ga] Rules & Protocols Committee babybows.com
[ga] My policy on postings - and slurs Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection jp
Re: Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Bruce James
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? jp
Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Dave Crocker
Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joanna Lane
Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Kent Crispin
Re[3]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
Re[4]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
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17 APRIL 2001
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2001 Apr 17
Re: Re[4]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Bruce James
Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Kristy McKee
Re: [ga] Rules & Protocols Committee Dave Crocker
Re: Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Bruce James
RE: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Roeland Meyer
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POSTING #1 ON 17 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 18 APR 2001
Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols

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