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Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of William Walsh for mass postings
28 of the last 30 posts to this list have been re: suspension
can we move on to more substantive items or is this what we have to look
forward to for the near future ?
ken stubbs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
To: "David Farrar" <david@farrar.com>
Cc: "[GA]" <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of William Walsh for mass postings
> To: David Farrar <david@farrar.com>
>
> Dear David
>
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:34 PM (AEST), you wrote:
> Subject: Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of William Walsh for mass postings
>
> > I make no comment about the content of Mr Walsh's posts as this ruling
did not
> > judge them. He has been suspended only for breaching the posting limit.
> >
> > Having perused the archives for this period I find the following have
also
> > breached the 5 posts per day limit.
> >
> > Chris Ambler - breached on 12, 14, 15 April
> > Bradley Thorton - breached (by double) on 15 April
> > Patrick Corliss - breached by double on 14 and 16 April
> > Roeland Meyer - breached on 11, 12, 13, 15 and 17 April
> > Dave Crocker - breached on 13 and 14 April
> > Kent Crispin - breached on 17 April
> >
> > I am in no way asking for these people to be "disciplined" also. I
merely
> > suggest that the decision to suspend Mr Walsh on *the grounds stated* be
> > revisited as it seems on the published grounds, there are another half
dozen
> or
> > more people who have done much the same.
> >
> > Deciding whether a post is abusive or not is always going to be a
subjective
> > judgement of some sort. However applying a posting limit should IMO be
done
> > far more objectively.
>
> Whilst you are not asking for these people to be disciplined, this is, in
fact,
> a likely effect of your complaint as you clearly recognise. A similar
effort is
> required to counter Mr Walsh's argument that there is, or was, no limit in
the
> first place.
>
> However, you do have a valid point. In this respect, I would advise that
there
> has never been any intention to enforce the daily limit blindly. The
intention
> of the restriction was to reduce the overall "noise" on the list.
>
> Thus if a person occasionally goes over the limit, and posts six or even
seven,
> emails, I would personally not consider this of utmost gravity. But what
we are
> talking about here, as far as I can see, is a systematic and deliberate
breach
> of list protocols. This is exactly the problem, and the harm, that the
posting
> rules were introduced to combat in the first place. It is not a minor
matter.
>
> There are many examples of "flame wars" on this and other lists. My
feeling is
> that we have constructive work to do and even your post is not assisting
that
> task. I have, for example, spent much of the past week working on list
research
> and debate.
>
> To make it clear I am not just talking about an hour or two, here or
there, I am
> talking about sustained effort for days and days. With very little to
show for
> it. In fact, I genuinely feel this is very much a wasted effort unless we
have
> your support.
>
> As I have been named (and now warned) I have checked my posts for the days
in
> question. This is not a trivial task because I am in Australia and
perhaps 19
> hours difference in time from the West Coast of the States. The details
are
> below for ease of checking by anyone on the list who feels they need to do
that.
>
> On 14 April 2001, the list archive shows that I made no less than 9
postings.
> By my Australian time five of these postings were made on 14 April and
four were
> made on 15 April 2001. The list archive shows one posting was made on 15
April
>
> So this brings my posting to the exact limit of five on both 14 and 15
April.
>
> The 16 April is more problematic. The list archives show 16 postings but,
by my
> Australian time 10 of the were made on 17 April 2001. This leaves 6
postings on
> the 16 April. One of these, the last post on my 16 April was an official
> notice about "Excessive Postings". It was my reminder to the list of the
> posting limit.
>
> So this brings my posting to the exact limit of five on 16 April also.
>
> However, I am now left with 10 postings on 17 April 2001. This was, of
course,
> the day that I tried to bring the list to order in my official capacity as
> Co-Chair.
>
> POSTINGS ON 17 APRIL 2001
>
> (1) Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML
> (2) [ga] The International Association of Top Level Domains ("IATLD")
> (3) Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed
> (4) [ga] Chinese Internet
> (5) [ga] Keeping Up The Barriers
> (6) [ga] List Rules and Protocols
> (7) [ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols
> (8) [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly
> (9) [ga] Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
> (10) Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
>
> By my count, five of these namely (2), (3), (6), (7) and (8) were clearly
> official
> And without checking, I think you'll find that I signed them as such.
>
> So this brings my posting to the exact limit of five on 17 April also.
>
> It is clear that I have taken great care to maintain my posting rate at
exactly
> the five posts per day limit. The fact that I reminded other people about
the
> limit shows the genuine nature of my compliance. I ask the the Chair to
lift
> the warning
>
> You noted that Christopher Ambler breached the posting limit on 12, 14, 15
> April. You will also recall that much of this was a debate with Mr Walsh.
I
> leave each of you to make your own judgment on its merits. Mr Ambler is
not now
> subscribed.
>
> However, it was to minimise such unnecessary posting that I posted the
onlist
> reminder of the posting limts on 16 April, my local time. I also
intervened the
> next day. It is as clear to me as could be that officials are entitled to
> expect some co-operation and goodwill from those who only so recently
elected
> them.
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:53 AM (AEST)
> William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com> wrote:
>
> > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 5:55:04 AM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> > > Thank you for the counting.
> > > William Walsh had been previously warned about the posting limit, and
has
> > > chosen to go on "shouting".
> >
> > No limit was in effect. In fact, no limit is in effect today.
>
> Many reference have been made to the posting limit and it was clearly
adopted by
> the present administration by my posting addressed to Mr Ambler and Mr
Walsh.
>
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>; William X. Walsh
> <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:19 PM
> Subject: [ga] Excessive Postings
>
> > Hi Everybody
> >
> > I can see this particular issue taking quite a few more postings to
resolve.
> > For the sake of list decorum, perhaps we should all try to keep to our
five
> > postings per day limit.
> >
> > Meanwhile I'd ask the Chair Elect to call for volunteers to act as List
> Monitor.
>
> In case it is not still not clear, I again remind everybody of this list
that
> there is a limit of five postings per day. This is calculated on the
basis of
> the posting party's own local time ending at midnight. The List Monitors
are
> given the discretion to allow minor and occasional breaches in
circumstances of
> genuine attempts to comply.
>
> List Monitors should also consider the "harm" that this ruling is designed
to
> address when applying their discretion towards postings over the daily
limit.
>
> Yours faithfully
> Patrick Corliss
>
> Note: Although this posting contains an official reminder I must
include it
> in my daily posting count. Supporting documentation about my postings
follows:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> DNSO Mailing List Archives
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/maillist.html
>
> 2001 Apr 13
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency)
Christopher
> Ambler
> RE: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Roeland
Meyer
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Bret
Fausett
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Joanna
Lane
> Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Joanna Lane
> RE: Re[2]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Roeland
Meyer
> Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace DPF
> Re[4]: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) William X.
Walsh
> Re[2]: [ga] Collisions in Namespace William X. Walsh
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 13
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jeff Field
> [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Milton Mueller
> RE: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Jeff Field
> RE: [ga] Collisions in Namespace JandL
> [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... PacificRoot Hostmaster
> RE: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Roeland Meyer
> Re[2]: [ga] Collisions in Namespace William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Harald Tveit
Alvestrand
> Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... Alexander Svensson
> [ga] Confirmation of our new Chairs Joop Teernstra
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jefsey Morfin
> [ga] motion to the Chair Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic Robin Miller
> Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] motion to the Chair Kristy McKee
> RE: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic Roeland Meyer
> Re: [ga] Collisions in Namespace Joanna Lane
> Re: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Marc Schneiders
> [ga] New.net tactics Sotiris
> Re[2]: [ga] Critics say stick to the topic William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... JandL
> RE: [ga] Collisions in RFC 1535 space Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> [ga] Call for a Working Group Kendall Dawson
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] New.net tactics Jefsey Morfin
> RE: [ga] Collisions in RFC 1535 space Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group JandL
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) JandL
> Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Bruce James
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 14 APRIL 2001
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 14
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Kendall Dawson
> Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Erica Roberts
> Re: [ga] motion to the Chair Joop Teernstra
> Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
> Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jeff Field
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Sandy Harris
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 14
> Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X.
Walsh
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 1 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
> [ga] ICANN Under Fire Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Cc: Andrew McLaughlin, ICANN <ajm@icann.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 3:43 PM
> Subject: [ga] ICANN Under Fire
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 2 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
> [ga] Confusion in the Namespace Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:38 PM
> Subject: [ga] Confusion in the Namespace
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dave Crocker
> [ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace William X. Walsh
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 3 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
> [ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:49 PM
> Subject: [ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 4 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
> [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Sandy Harris <sandy@storm.ca>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 4:55 PM
> Subject: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space
> ------------------------------
> [ga] Re: Confusion in the Namespace Andy Gardner
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 5 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... Alexander Svensson
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Roeland Meyer
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML PacificRoot
Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML PacificRoot
Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Sandy Harris
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Derek Conant
> RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Confirmation of our new Chairs Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] vote appeal Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Jefsey Morfin
> Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X.
Walsh
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Derek Conant
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Christopher Ambler
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space John Charles Broomfield
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 6 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 15 APR 2001
> [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Patrick Corliss
> To: "Jonathan Weinberg" <weinberg@mail.msen.com>
> Subject: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind
> From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:17:49 +1000
> Cc: "[GA]" <ga@dnso.org>
> Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
> ------------------------------
> [ga] Re: confusing.... Derek Conant
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
> Re: [ga] Re: confusing.... Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Derek Conant
> Re: [ga] Re: confusing.... Derek Conant
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 7 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #2 of 15 APR 2001
> [ga] Call for a Working Group Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Jeff Field <jfield@aaaq.com>
> Cc: Derek Conant <dconant@dnsga.org>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 8:18 AM
> Subject: [ga] Call for a Working Group
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Re: confusing.... Dave Crocker
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 8 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #3 of 15 APR 2001
> [ga] Non-Disclosure of Vested Interests Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:15 AM
> Subject: [ga] Non-Disclosure of Vested Interests
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 9 ON 14 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #4 of 15 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] List decorum Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] List decorum
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 15 APRIL 2001
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 15
> [ga] Sorry - wong answer John Palmer
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> Re[2]: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] List decorum Dassa
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] List decorum Dave Crocker
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] Sorry - wong answer PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Derek Conant
> RE: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Sandy Harris
> Re: [ga] Sorry - wong answer John Palmer
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space John Charles Broomfield
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 15
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Derek Conant
> Re: [ga] Sorry - wong answer PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Christopher Ambler
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group John Palmer
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
> RE: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Roeland Meyer
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Jeff Field
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Dassa
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dassa
> RE: [ga] ICANNWatch Comment on MultiBind Dassa
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dassa
> RE: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Roeland Meyer
> Re[6]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space PacificRoot Hostmaster
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
> Re: [ga] Attn: GA Chairman Younger.... JandL
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) JandL
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Dave Crocker
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Dave Crocker
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Roeland Meyer
> Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X.
Walsh
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group John Charles Broomfield
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Thomas Roessler
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML JandL
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group JandL
> Re: Re[6]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Christopher Ambler
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Call for a Working Group Dave Crocker
> Re[8]: [ga] Call for a Working Group William X. Walsh
> [ga] sub-ML for the request of a WG-Inclusive Name Space Management Jefsey
> Morfin
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Jefsey Morfin
> [ga] Dave: "they are free" Jefsey Morfin
> [ga] WIPO Seeks Comment On Domain Name Process Darrell Greenwood
> RE: [ga] collisions in namespace (was gTLD Constituency) Jeff Field
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] sub-ML for the request of a WG-Inclusive Name Space Management
Roberto
> Gaetano
> [ga] WG direction. Roeland Meyer
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jeff Field
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Sandy Harris
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Marc Schneiders
> [ga] Re: WG direction. Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> Re[2]: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Patrick
Greenwell
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 1 ON 15 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 16 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free"
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] sub-ML for the request of a WG-Inclusive Name SpaceManagement
Joanna
> Lane
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 16 APRIL 2001
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 16
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 1 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #2 of 16 APR 2001
> [ga] Atlantic Root's Disclaimer Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Patrick Greenwell <patrick@stealthgeeks.net>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; Leah Gallegos, JandL <jandl@jandl.com>; Jeff Field
> <jfield@aaaq.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:10 AM
> Subject: [ga] Atlantic Root's Disclaimer
> ------------------------------
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2001 Apr 16
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 2 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #3 of 16 APR 2001
> [ga] Fracturing the Internet Patrick Corliss
> To: "[GA]" <ga@dnso.org>
> Subject: [ga] Fracturing the Internet
> From: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:21:04 +1000
> Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
> ------------------------------
> [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Milton Mueller
> Re[2]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
> Re[2]: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML William X.
Walsh
> Re: [ga] Re: WG direction. Christopher Ambler
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 3 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #4 of 16 APR 2001
> [ga] Demanding Inclusion Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:49 AM
> Subject: [ga] Demanding Inclusion
> ------------------------------
> RE: [ga] Fracturing the Internet Dassa
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Marc Schneiders
> [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Milton Mueller
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 4 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #5 of 16 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Roberto Gaetano <ga_chair@hotmail.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space
> ------------------------------
> RE: [ga] Fracturing the Internet Andy Gardner
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 5 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #6 of 16 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Roberto Gaetano <ga_chair@hotmail.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free"
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Demanding Inclusion Christopher Ambler
> Re[4]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roeland Meyer
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> Re[6]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
> Re[2]: [ga] Demanding Inclusion William X. Walsh
> Re: Re[6]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> Re[8]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
> Re: Re[8]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 6 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #7 of 16 APR 2001
> [ga] Excessive Postings Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>; William X. Walsh
> <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:19 PM
> Subject: [ga] Excessive Postings
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Re: [council] Collisions in Namespace Dave Crocker
> Re[10]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Sandy Harris
> Re: Re[10]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> Re[12]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" William X. Walsh
> [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? babybows.com
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Derek Conant
> [ga] List Monitors Needed babybows.com
> Re: Re[12]: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Sotiris
> RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Jeff Field
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jeff Field
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? DPF
> [ga] JCB's post Jefsey Morfin
> [ga] the probable final solution: Jeff Field's wrong analogy Jefsey Morfin
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Joop Teernstra
> RE: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Joop Teernstra
> Re: [ga] JCB's post John Charles Broomfield
> [ga] iCANN's protection Jefsey Morfin
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Marc Schneiders
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 7 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 17 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Darryl Lynch <dassa@dhs.org>
> Cc: Marc Schneiders <marc@schneiders.org>; <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed Joanna Lane
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 8 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #2 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] The International Association of Top Level Domains ("IATLD") Patrick
> Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Gennady Pritsker <gp@iatld.org>; Gennady Pritsker <gennady@iatld.org>
> Cc: auDA, Board <board@auda.org.au>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:01 AM
> Subject: [ga] The International Association of Top Level Domains ("IATLD")
> ------------------------------
> [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Roberto Gaetano
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 9 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #3 of 17 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; Danny Younger
<webmaster@babybows.com>; [GA]
> <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] List Monitors Needed
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Roberto Gaetano
> RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kristy McKee
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Bruce James
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Death Struggle in Name Space Roberto Gaetano
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joanna Lane
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? DPF
> Testbed and precedent (Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free") Marc Schneiders
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Sandy Harris
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 10 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #4 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] Chinese Internet Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Sandy Harris <sandy@storm.ca>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; Kristy McKee <k@widgital.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:59 AM
> Subject: [ga] Chinese Internet
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> 2001 Apr 16
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kristy McKee
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
> Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Roberto Gaetano
> Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kristy McKee
> 2001 Apr 17
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joop Teernstra
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Bruce James
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Kent Crispin
> Re: Testbed and precedent (Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free") Kent Crispin
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Sotiris
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kent Crispin
> Re: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Christopher Ambler
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Christopher Ambler
> [ga] Re: [icann-announce] Revised .com/.net/.org Agreements Forwardedto
Commerce
> Department Joanna Lane
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Kent Crispin
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 11 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #5 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] Keeping Up The Barriers Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Kent Crispin <kent@SONGBIRD.COM>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; Marc Schneiders <marc@schneiders.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:49 PM
> Subject: [ga] Keeping Up The Barriers
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Christopher Ambler
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 12 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #6 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>
> Cc: Michael Froomkin <froomkin@law.miami.edu>; Kent Crispin
<kent@SONGBIRD.COM>;
> [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:13 PM
> Subject: [ga] List Rules and Protocols
> ------------------------------
> [ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols Christopher Ambler
> Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 13 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #7 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Christopher Ambler <cambler-dompol@iodesign.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>; [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:55 PM
> Subject: [ga] Re: List Rules and Protocols
> ------------------------------
> [ga] An agenda for the SIG "WG-Inclusive Name Space Management
Proposition"
> Jefsey Morfin
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 14 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #8 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly Patrick
> Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:27 PM
> Subject: [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly
> ------------------------------
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? DPF
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection DPF
> [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Rules of Order for the Mailing Lists of the General Assembly
William X.
> Walsh
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 15 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #9 of 17 APR 2001
> [ga] Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:17 PM
> Subject: [ga] Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
> ------------------------------
> [ga] Re: Fw: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> [ga] The fall of the iCANN Empire? Jefsey Morfin
> RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joanna Lane
> Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> ------------------------------
> POSTING 16 ON 16 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #10 of 17 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: William X. Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
> Cc: [ga-abuse] <ga-abuse@dnso.org>; Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> <Harald@Alvestrand.no>; [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
> ------------------------------
> Re[2]: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joanna Lane
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Dave Crocker
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection DPF
> [ga] Policy vs Contracts? DPF
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusive Name Space SIG ML Dassa
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Joop Teernstra
> Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joop Teernstra
> Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> RE: [ga] Dave: "they are free" Roberto Gaetano
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Jefsey Morfin
> Re: [ga] Policy vs Contracts? Jefsey Morfin
> Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joop Teernstra
> RE: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Dassa
> [ga] Rules & Protocols Committee babybows.com
> [ga] My policy on postings - and slurs Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School
of Law
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection jp
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Bruce James
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? jp
> Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Dave Crocker
> Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Joanna Lane
> Re: [ga] I want to be on the Inclusivbe Name Space SIG ML Kent Crispin
> Re[3]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> Re[4]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols William X. Walsh
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> 17 APRIL 2001
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> 2001 Apr 17
> Re: Re[4]: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Bruce James
> Re: [ga] Additional Mailing Lists? Kristy McKee
> Re: [ga] Rules & Protocols Committee Dave Crocker
> Re: Re[2]: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection Bruce James
> RE: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Roeland Meyer
> ------------------------------
> POSTING #1 ON 17 APR 2001 PER LIST TIME - POSTING #1 of 18 APR 2001
> Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols Patrick Corliss
> From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> To: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> Cc: [GA] <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules and Protocols
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
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