Re: [ga] Austerity measures

["William S. Lovell" <wsl@cerebalaw.com>]

"Governments in exile" or "shadow governments" have indeed worked, but here
there's no reason (unless somebody has "put out contracts" that we don't know
about yet! -- um, that's a joke) to leave the fold.  And while these shadow
governments (e.g., deGaulle in exile) had influence, they had people within the
country as well or else nothing (absent WWII, etc.) would have happened.
We're the "people inside," and there are thousands of frustrated netizens who
decry the current state of affairs and are counting on us to help straighten it out.
They're the "outside, and I'm sure that neither little Veronica in her bath tub nor
her parents are involved with ICANN. (Anyone not know what I'm talking
about?  Archie Comics, which of course has a character named Veronica, went
after the veronica.org web page that Veronica's parents had put up for her. She's
a future netizen, I'm sure, and we need to look after her interests, and that of
thousands if not millions like her. Her web page was an attachment to a brief I
filed with the U. S. Supreme Court.)

(But please don't let's discuss deGaulle.  That would take more bandwidth
than we have!)

Bill Lovell

Eric Dierker wrote:

> But I believe you would have to agree that some times that concerted effort came from
> people who actually fled the country and worked from the outside to effect change on
> the inside.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> "William S. Lovell" wrote:
>
> > "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." But that kind
> > of situation has never been solved by walking away. It is only the tendency
> > to do so that permits that kind of thing to continue.  But neither the U.S.
> > nor the State of California nor ICANN are an Iraq -- there an objector
> > to the power structure will most surely get killed; here, that is not the case.
> > However much some may belittle the world wide rise in democracy over
> > the last decade or so, it has still occurred, but only through the concerted
> > efforts of dedicated people.
> >
> > Bill Lovell
> >
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> >
> > > Vany, Michael, et al.,
> > >
> > > It appears almost as if some people actually believe that others are dolts.
> > >
> > > And how about Pindar and ex-Swedish PM Bildt enjoying Iranian and Russian
> > > caviar while they manage their "study".  "Bottoms-up!" as the champagne flutes
> > > clink. [Kendall!?]
> > >
> > > [aside: thinking out loud] Is there any reason to continue participating in the
> > > farce?  What if everyone just quit the GA en masse?  Chairs and tables
> > > included.  Well, perhaps not everyone would leave... but certainly a
> > > significant, noticeable number..?
> > >
> > > Condolences,
> > >
> > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > >         Reminder: RFC 1591  The truth will set you free!
> > >
> > > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:
> > >
> > > > To NC fellow members and GA fellow members:
> > > >
> > > > I wasn't in the teleconference done on May 9.  And I am surprised to read
> > > > that those that administrate the mailing list server for DNSO (as far as I
> > > > understand is the AFNIC staff), stated that they spend a lot of time
> > > > administrating an unmoderated mailing list as GA-FULL is.
> > > >
> > > > This notice surprise me first because the software used to manage mailing
> > > > list named MAJORDOMO, it is made to setup things one time and then things
> > > > runs in their own.  This is my experience with MAJORDOMO and I am sure
> > > > many members of the GA who are techies can also ratify this.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, if the AFNIC staff doesn't know how to manage mailing lists in
> > > > an effective way using all MAJORDOMO capabilitie so they doesn't have
> > > > to spend a lot of time making manual tasks regarding with the mailing
> > > > list, then I recommend them to learn more about MAJORDOMO, and if they
> > > > need technical assitance, maybe they can post their questions to the
> > > > GA-FULL mailing list and for sure techies will answer.  But with one
> > > > condition: resign the high salaries they are receiving for doing this job,
> > > > at least what it was in the whole year 2000.  I cannot believe that they
> > > > charged with a lot of money to the DNSO and now they are complaining about
> > > > a simply mailing list (by the way, remember that the constituencies are
> > > > the ones who pay even if the NCDNHC is passing hard times to recolect its
> > > > part of the due).
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Vany
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Michael Froomkin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > this is a joke, right?  how much time does it take to run a mailing list?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
> > > > IT Specialist
> > > > Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
> > > > Tel: (507) 230-4011 ext 213
> > > > Fax: (507) 230-3455
> > > > e-mail: vany@sdnp.org.pa
> > > > http://www.sdnp.org.pa
> > > >
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