Re: [ga] Austerity measures

[Eric Dierker <eric@HI-TEK.COM>]

Right On!

That is why even though I am in the outside, (being Banned) in excile for criticizing our
co-chair. I will still put up the partisan fight.  I personally have Veronicas at home and
around the world counting on me. Hey it is not so bad in excile I have met many expatriates
working from the outside- in.  We are growing in numbers and could start a coup. (note I
left off the de' etat(sp) in defference to deGaulle) I will return!

Sincerely,  from the "alt-root-zone"

"William S. Lovell" wrote:

> "Governments in exile" or "shadow governments" have indeed worked, but here
> there's no reason (unless somebody has "put out contracts" that we don't know
> about yet! -- um, that's a joke) to leave the fold.  And while these shadow
> governments (e.g., deGaulle in exile) had influence, they had people within the
> country as well or else nothing (absent WWII, etc.) would have happened.
> We're the "people inside," and there are thousands of frustrated netizens who
> decry the current state of affairs and are counting on us to help straighten it out.
> They're the "outside, and I'm sure that neither little Veronica in her bath tub nor
> her parents are involved with ICANN. (Anyone not know what I'm talking
> about?  Archie Comics, which of course has a character named Veronica, went
> after the veronica.org web page that Veronica's parents had put up for her. She's
> a future netizen, I'm sure, and we need to look after her interests, and that of
> thousands if not millions like her. Her web page was an attachment to a brief I
> filed with the U. S. Supreme Court.)
>
> (But please don't let's discuss deGaulle.  That would take more bandwidth
> than we have!)
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > But I believe you would have to agree that some times that concerted effort came from
> > people who actually fled the country and worked from the outside to effect change on
> > the inside.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > "William S. Lovell" wrote:
> >
> > > "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." But that kind
> > > of situation has never been solved by walking away. It is only the tendency
> > > to do so that permits that kind of thing to continue.  But neither the U.S.
> > > nor the State of California nor ICANN are an Iraq -- there an objector
> > > to the power structure will most surely get killed; here, that is not the case.
> > > However much some may belittle the world wide rise in democracy over
> > > the last decade or so, it has still occurred, but only through the concerted
> > > efforts of dedicated people.
> > >
> > > Bill Lovell
> > >
> > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Vany, Michael, et al.,
> > > >
> > > > It appears almost as if some people actually believe that others are dolts.
> > > >
> > > > And how about Pindar and ex-Swedish PM Bildt enjoying Iranian and Russian
> > > > caviar while they manage their "study".  "Bottoms-up!" as the champagne flutes
> > > > clink. [Kendall!?]
> > > >
> > > > [aside: thinking out loud] Is there any reason to continue participating in the
> > > > farce?  What if everyone just quit the GA en masse?  Chairs and tables
> > > > included.  Well, perhaps not everyone would leave... but certainly a
> > > > significant, noticeable number..?
> > > >
> > > > Condolences,
> > > >
> > > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > > >         Reminder: RFC 1591  The truth will set you free!
> > > >
> > > > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > To NC fellow members and GA fellow members:
> > > > >
> > > > > I wasn't in the teleconference done on May 9.  And I am surprised to read
> > > > > that those that administrate the mailing list server for DNSO (as far as I
> > > > > understand is the AFNIC staff), stated that they spend a lot of time
> > > > > administrating an unmoderated mailing list as GA-FULL is.
> > > > >
> > > > > This notice surprise me first because the software used to manage mailing
> > > > > list named MAJORDOMO, it is made to setup things one time and then things
> > > > > runs in their own.  This is my experience with MAJORDOMO and I am sure
> > > > > many members of the GA who are techies can also ratify this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, if the AFNIC staff doesn't know how to manage mailing lists in
> > > > > an effective way using all MAJORDOMO capabilitie so they doesn't have
> > > > > to spend a lot of time making manual tasks regarding with the mailing
> > > > > list, then I recommend them to learn more about MAJORDOMO, and if they
> > > > > need technical assitance, maybe they can post their questions to the
> > > > > GA-FULL mailing list and for sure techies will answer.  But with one
> > > > > condition: resign the high salaries they are receiving for doing this job,
> > > > > at least what it was in the whole year 2000.  I cannot believe that they
> > > > > charged with a lot of money to the DNSO and now they are complaining about
> > > > > a simply mailing list (by the way, remember that the constituencies are
> > > > > the ones who pay even if the NCDNHC is passing hard times to recolect its
> > > > > part of the due).
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Vany
> > > > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Michael Froomkin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > this is a joke, right?  how much time does it take to run a mailing list?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
> > > > > IT Specialist
> > > > > Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
> > > > > Tel: (507) 230-4011 ext 213
> > > > > Fax: (507) 230-3455
> > > > > e-mail: vany@sdnp.org.pa
> > > > > http://www.sdnp.org.pa
> > > > >
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