Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Four Week Suspension of Eric Dierker

[Eric Dierker <eric@HI-TEK.COM>]

Dear Mr. Stubbs,

Please review the archives of the WG-Review.  You find that under outreach we
watched this list and a few others and found that your premise here is wrong.
In fact when rancor and sarcasm exist list participation was found to go up.
You see there is a logical reality here, simply telling the truth about many of
the actions and motivations of the *leaders* requires the use of nasty and
pajoritive terms, you simply cannot describe the actions without the
descriptive words which sound bad.  People actually like hearing the dirt about
these powerful people from many of us who experience their treachery first
hand.

I would like you to honestly describe my suspension in nice terms, "a loving
admonishment" etc,etc - No in truth it is a censoring of opposing views. And to
me those are the worst set of words I could say of anyone.

Sincerely,
Eric

Ken Stubbs wrote:

> i fully support the suspension..
> there are already too many distractions and unnecessary bickering on this
> list and unnecessary rancor and sarcasm only diminishes the list
> creditability and the related "noise"drives away potential new
> member-subscribers
>
> ken stubbs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jefsey Morfin" <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
> To: <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Four Week Suspension of Eric Dierker
>
> > Dear Interim Chair,
> > We have a been certain number here rereading the incriminated Eric's
> mails.
> > I really fail to see what was hurting in the first mail ending with the
> > author's best loves, and I accept - as the author says it - the second is
> > lyric, but I must say that at that time I found it to be one of he master
> > pieces of iCANN literature. Would our monitor censor Shakespeare? the
> > English lyrics has full of "asses" ... Would Richard III Saint something
> > (old reminiscences: you know better) battle's story pass muster?
> >
> > I know you have removed yourself from the case as you are quoted in these
> > mails. I think you should now involve yourself as I appeal onto you as
> > Chair of this GA to cancel that decision.
> >
> > I wish the best to Danny to restore his business and his very nice
> > babybows.com site. I wish this GA to see peace and efficiency restored.
> And
> > to us all to have Eric continuing to be our brilliant dotcommer.
> >
> > Jefsey
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09:20 18/06/01, Alexander Svensson said:
> >
> > >The list monitors have decided to suspend Eric Dierker's
> > >posting rights for four weeks, beginning today (Monday,
> > >18 June) until Monday, 16 July.
> > >
> > >We have received several complaints about postings by
> > >Eric Dierker; our decision is based on the personal attacks
> > >and insults in
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02563.html and
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02077.html as well
> > >as the breach of the posting limit on two successive days:
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02551.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02552.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02556.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02563.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02571.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02574.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02577.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02580.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02588.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02589.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02604.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02605.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02622.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02623.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02625.html
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02626.html
> > >
> > >The GA posting rules are laid down in
> > >http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html:
> > >
> > >- The messages must be relevant to the business of the GA
> > >- The messages must observe a minimum of decorum, including:
> > >   - Not indulging in personal attacks, insults or slander
> > >   - Not using offensive language
> > >- If the GA Chair or a list monitor asks for a limit to the number
> > >   of posts per person per day, this must be respected
> > >- The size of messages should be kept reasonable (there should be
> > >   a VERY good reason to send a message of more than 10 Kbytes).
> > >
> > >The time of the suspension has been doubled since Eric
> > >Dierker has already received a two week suspension in May.
> > >This decision may be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > >
> > >Best regards,
> > >/// Alexander (for the list monitors)
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