Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Four Week Suspension of Eric Dierker

[Eric Dierker <eric@HI-TEK.COM>]

Be careful friend you have posting limits, while I do not!

Do you deny it is: 1. the language I use, and 2. My crudeness and bluntness that
you do not like.

I never attacked anyones integrity I attacked the stance they took with regard
to us stupid people that make noise.  I attacked their position with regard to
politics within the GA.  Your earlier analogy was correct, a pompous ass judge
with his silver spoon would contempt me for challenging another member of his
class. I never said that you were not entitled to be in your class by hard work
and intelligence, I simply made the point that now that you are there you want
to keep us nonconformists out.

You and I have a score to settle.  This score is at the heart of the TOP DOWN
management of the ICANN. It is not noise. It is at the heart of the little man
using the internet and having to scrapp his way for every right against privacy
invasion and freedom of speech and access issues.

Go ahead and tell me what is more important than that the commoner has
unfettered access to the net. Yet you would restrict it based upon his
linguistic ability to meet your standards.  I hate to tell you this but the
movies imitate life, we cuss and swear when we get cheated.  If the telephone
company or ICANN cheat us we get mad.  And when their response is that: "our
language prohibits us from discussion or recourse"(as in your court of law) we
go postal.  It is your Top Down laying of standards that hurt this forum and Net
not my bottoms up.

Truth be told I am far better off, in the GA Full, I can speak my mind, and
those who know me can use delete.

Best to all and if you read this against you will my apologies.

My best also to starving children whos caretakers are denied access to the
internet and better methods of farming by ruthless tyranical governments and the
ICANN.

Sincerely,
Eric

"William S. Lovell" wrote:

> Oh, come off it, Eric. I'll match you on "out of the dirt" background any
> day of the week.  (I'll not bore this group with the details.) I managed
> to get up out of a family of 6 living on $250/mo military pension at the end
> of the Depression, and achieve what I have achieved.  Based upon what
> I've been posting, I doubt anyone else would support your "barristers
> private club" theory.  This post of yours by itself, even without foul
> language, expresses quite well why you end up getting suspended all
> the time -- the mouth (or in this case the fingers) gets running before the
> brain is engaged, spouting groundless generalities in some kind of
> mindless, cathartic explosion.
>
> And my client, who hosted data on the Rocky Horror Picture Show
> and helped put on live performances thereof, just as a means of getting
> the street kids into some kind of more productive lives, did not lose
> his domain name, and on a case a good part of which I paid for out
> of my own pocket.  He has it right now (even though the big bucks
> corporation is presently appealing that decision). I'll not ask for any
> apology for your gross and libelous inaccuracies, but don't try it again.
>
> The shame of all this is that you have a good brain, if you'd only learn
> how to use it properly.
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Mr. Lovell,
> >
> > I may well be overly passionate and have a tongue which matches my
> > history of work such as roughnecking, riverguiding and ministering to
> > those which speak that way as a culture.  I am quite certain that your
> > barristers private club would have me ousted by my mere appearance and
> > vulgarity. And you are quite right to hold me in disdain as someone below
> > your class.
> >
> > Does not any of this bigotry bother you?  I have equal bias against you.
> > (I am sorry) You look down on us dotcommoners and do not want to
> > associate with us. I understand for we are a crass group without your
> > sophistication.  We are like your clients who lost domain names just
> > because they did not have the money sophistication or power. But I
> > suppose you are right ICANN is no place to protect our rights it is a
> > club for the well healed educated and eloquent speakers such as yourself.
> >
> > Boy-oh-Boyo if this is accurate it really sucks, and on behalf of my
> > dotcommoner friends worldwide I am going to do something about it.
> >
> > With heart fealt Sincerity,
> > Eric
> >
> > "William S. Lovell" wrote:
> >
> > > As an attorney, Mr. Froomkin should appreciate the fact that
> > > rules and procedures are essential to the practice of law in the
> > > courtroom -- the language on which the suspension was based
> > > would likely lead to a contempt charge if uttered in court, and
> > > rightly so.  GA is far from being a court room, but the same
> > > principles apply -- do not disrupt the process -- and the use
> > > of such rules is well justified in order to help facilitate action
> > > on legitimate GA purposes.
> > >
> > > Bill Lovell
> > >
> > > "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The rules should be scrapped.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Alexander Svensson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > to the list rules. So far, most of those who have commented
> > > > > on the topic have argued that the list monitors have
> > > > > misapplied the rules, not that the list rules itself should
> > > > > be scrapped. Strangely enough, I find this encouraging.
> > > >
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