[ga] Re: [ga-roots] Dot-Antitrust anyone? fresh evidence

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

Dear Jeff,
I am afraid you are missing the point. When you enter a DN in your browser 
that name is scanned and possibly replaced with a canned address (Real 
Name). This process will now be used by IE to support VeriSign 
multinational names (yestderay annoucement). A multinational name is a 
normal DNS string with a certain semantic. This will certainly be made 
plain by a lot of justice decisions: all the people which rehistered bq_ as 
a string are blocked if I undestand well.

So what is a semantic? is there a big difference between bq_..... and 
.shop? VeriSign and MicroSoft will explain that IE is just offering a 
service to the user: to protect him from collisions by simili TLDs.

Vint started a real war purposedly. Stuart's yesterday position can be a 
basis for talks however it is more probably a political move. Anyway, they 
have now all the elements and possiblities to stop it through a consensus 
on the definition of what at minimum a TLD is.

Or we have  entered in a huge instability period and possibly an Internet 
split. We should have started a discussion on iCANN name space management 
instead of being trapped into arguing on 'roots' on a sub-list. We de facto 
freed their hands and now the problem is with all of us.

The solution is in heir hands: up to them to decide.
Jefsey


On 14:38 21/06/01, Jeff Williams said:
>Len and all,
>
>   Thanks for passing this along.
>
>   It is obvious that Stuart Lynn is either unaware or just not savvy
>enough to
>recognize that some large ISP's such as @home and Earthlink/Mindspring
>(My account service provider) do not require the New.Net Plugin to
>access
>their sites.  That's a huge number of stakeholders.  Recently also
>New.Net
>also partnered up with Prodigy which will bring a potential +10m
>users/stakeholders
>access to the much needed and increasingly desired TLD's and associated
>Domain Names.
>
>   Maybe someday the ICANN BoD and staff, most especially Stuart Lynn
>will come to their senses....  Hope springs eternal...
>
>Len Lindon wrote:
>
> > Getting Out of Dot-Nowhere
> > By Joanna Glasner
> > 2:00 a.m. June 20, 2001
> > http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,44625,00.html
> >
> > > For folks who actually have Web addresses in alternative domains, a more
> > > pressing concern is not whether the sites will continue operating so 
> much as
> > > whether anyone will visit them.
> > >
> > > Since sites operated by alternate registries aren't on the Internet's 
> central
> > > server, they're typically hard to access. More often than not, users 
> trying to
> > > get to dot-shop or dot-travel end up receiving "server not responding"
> > > messages.
> > >
> > > Given those technical hurdles, low traffic figures weren't much of a 
> surprise
> > ...
> > > Largely through these efforts, New.net figures that its sites are 
> accessible
> > > by about 35 percent of U.S. Internet users through at least one 
> computer they
> > > operate.
> > >
> > > However, that still leaves out about two-thirds of the Web-using 
> public. The
> > > two largest Internet service providers, AOL and MSN, for example, 
> have yet to
> > > sign on to New.net's plan. On top of that, there are the countless 
> individuals
> > > who get Internet access at work or school without a commercial ISP.
> >
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>
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