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Re: [ga] Re: Fw:http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc05/msg00602.html
- To: Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Fw:http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc05/msg00602.html
- From: Eric Dierker <eric@HI-TEK.COM>
- Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 22:36:20 -0700
- CC: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@prodigy.net>, "mueller@syr. edu" <mueller@syr.edu>, ivanmc@akwan.com.br, " ;" <fitzsimmons@att.net>, phil.davidson@bt.com, Karl Auerbach <karl@CaveBear.com>, andy@ccc.de, " ;" <quaynor@ghana.com>, hans@icann.org, linda@icann.org, helmut.schink@icn.siemens.de, shkyong@kgsm.kaist.ac.kr, vcerf@mci.net, " ;" <amadeu@nominalia.com>, ken.fockler@sympatico.ca, mkatoh@wdc.fujitsu.com, junsec@wide.ad.jp, ga@dnso.org
- Organization: Hi-Tek.com
- References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010710044245.009d11d0@pop.wanadoo.fr>
- Reply-To: eric@hi-tek.com.vn
- Sender: owner-ga-full@dnso.org
Ladies and Gentlemen,
In case you have not noticed the $$$$$ behind the Internet which pays for all this
PoC comes from us users. However it gets here or there it is on speculation that
we will use and use and spend. Convincing each other is an egotistical exercise,
you had better convince me and my mp3 children and microsoft colleagues. You will
soon find out this is a capitalistic democratic process, now which of you is
willing to publicly market your position?
Eric
Jefsey Morfin wrote:
> Dear Milton,
> I sympathize with you. You met the Single Authoritative Root in person. The
> living AMERICANN Master. His name is Joe Sims. Cannot be anyone else: the
> three words together mean "perfect": an authoritative single root of a real
> wolrd databse (any database, including DNS) can onlybe empty or divine.
>
> Jon Postel thought it empty. They decided it divine.
>
> Mind you, Stuart found a very intersting concept. He describes the devil
> and names it "alternative roots". Then he describes the inclusive roots and
> names them "experimental". So VeriSign can go ahead with its multilingual
> DNs, China is just carrying an experience and we could have a drink
> together in Montevideo.
>
> The reason why he did not want you to vote, was just that you could have
> delayed their donation of .web to Tuckows on an experimental basis as a
> proof of concept that a non profit experience could make money.
>
> Cheers.
> Jefsey
>
> At 03:52 10/07/01, Jim Fleming wrote:
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@prodigy.net>
> >To: "mueller@syr. edu" <mueller@syr.edu>
> >Cc: <ivanmc@akwan.com.br>; <fitzsimmons@att.net>; <phil.davidson@bt.com>;
> >""Karl Auerbach"" <karl@CaveBear.com>; <andy@ccc.de>; <quaynor@ghana.com>;
> ><hans@icann.org>; <linda@icann.org>; <helmut.schink@icn.siemens.de>;
> ><shkyong@kgsm.kaist.ac.kr>; <vcerf@mci.net>; <amadeu@nominalia.com>;
> ><ken.fockler@sympatico.ca>; <mkatoh@wdc.fujitsu.com>; <junsec@wide.ad.jp>
> >Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:53 PM
> >Subject: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc05/msg00602.html
> >
> >
> > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc05/msg00602.html
> > > From: "Milton Mueller" <Mueller@syr.edu>
> > >
> > > "Whatever one's opinion of this document's substance,
> > > it is a completely illegitimate exercise. The staff has no
> > > authority to unilaterally declare that something is a policy."
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Milton,
> > >
> > > In my opinion, ICANN is one of FOUR major players attempting to
> > > shape the future of the Next Generation Internet. They (which includes
> >you)
> > > are doing it one way, their way. The other 3 groups are each doing it
> > > their way. The IPv4 Internet has not crashed. It is all just a
> > > proof-of-concept.
> > >
> > > As the top 2,048 "Best-of-Breed" TLDs emerge from ALL FOUR groups
> > > (plus more who may emerge), it seems reasonable to assume that each of
> > > the TLDs will have had their own history, legacy, etc. In many respects,
> > > that
> > > adds to the historic value of the TLDs. Someday history books may document
> > > how some TLDs were allowed to slip through the cracks, while others were
> > > agressively destroyed. It is all part of the history.
> > >
> > > The world clearly has to move forward, with or without, what has become
> > > known as ICANN. If TLDs go unimplemented, they will likely get picked
> > > up and made to work. Making TLDs work has not seemed to be a high priority
> > > since ICANN was formed. Many expected it would take them a few months
> > > but certainly not years. Fortunately, other groups have made far greater
> > > progress in the same time, or less.
> > >
> > > In summary, why worry about something that has little impact on the
> >Internet
> > > and DNS at this point in time ? The goal is now to find the 2,048
> > > Best-of-Breed
> > > TLDs. There are many to choose from.
> > >
> > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12574.html
> > > RFC-2001-07-01-000 IPv8 Expansion of Proof of Concept TLD Development
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Fleming
> > > http://www.unir.com
> > > Mars 128n 128e
> > > http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif
> > > http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif
> > > http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif
> > > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
> > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
> > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12223.html
> > >
>
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