Re: petty and ridiculous - Re: [ga] [Admin] Suspension of Dierker, Fleming, Walsh, Williams

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Derek and all assembly members,

  I think that the timing is fortuitous as well.  I also agree that the
suspending/banning anyone is fundamentally wrong.  I do not however
deny that I posted over the limit on the dates indicated.  I have apologized

to the Chair and the participants for it.

Derek Connate wrote:

> GA No Tolerance Policy - petty and ridiculous.
>
> Dierker, Fleming, Walsh, Williams, cool it now, the way the GA list
> monitors are running things here you'll probably get jail-time the next
> time they decide to punish you.  Who decides the punishment in this case
> and what are the statue of limitations for alleged violations anyway?
> This is laughable.  It looks like you better be careful with what you
> say next time.  I don't believe the allegations warranted suspension.
>
> Derek Conant
> DNSGA President and Chairman
>
> Kristy McKee wrote:
>
> > The list monitors note that there have been four
> > suspensions, effective immediately.
> >
> >   Jeff Williams, jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> >   eight weeks suspension
> >
> >   Eric Dierker, eric@hi-tek.com
> >   four weeks suspension
> >
> >   William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
> >   four weeks suspension
> >
> >   Jim Fleming, JimFleming@prodigy.net
> >   two weeks suspension
> >
> > Best regards,
> > /// Alexander (for the list monitors)
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Jeff Williams has broken
> > the posting limit by sending eight and six mails to the
> > GA within two consecutive 24 hour periods:
> >
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:56:05
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03374.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:34:27
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03375.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 05:16:11
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03379.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:11:00
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03430.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:21:18
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03436.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:24:14
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03437.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:39:58
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03438.html
> > Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:53:37
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03440.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:18:41 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03441.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:07:08 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03444.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:15:23 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03445.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:14:01 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03449.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:07:30 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03459.html
> > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 21:33:33 -0700
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03466.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Jeff Williams has already
> > been barred five times.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Jeff Williams for eight weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Eric Dierker has broken
> > the posting limit, despite warnings and his promise
> > "I will not over post" (referenced in a mail at
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02922.html).
> >
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 8:48:12
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02979.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:40:34
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03004.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:04:55
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03005.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:43:52
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03009.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:00:43
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03011.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:09:38
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03013.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:07:15
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03015.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Eric Dierker has been
> > previously warned and suspended; the suspension has
> > been overturned.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Eric Dierker for four weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that William X. Walsh has made
> > personal attacks against members of the General Assembly.
> > (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-icann/Arc00/msg00111.html;
> > "If you can't see that, then your prejudice and arrogance
> > is blinding you, as usual.") The list monitors note that
> > there have also been attacks regarding the history of the
> > IDNO (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03116.html,
> > "Including your own little temper tantrum when you pulled the
> > IDNO website and had the mailing list turned off because
> > people were asking you to step down (which when you were made
> > aware of how those actions were proving your critics right,
> > you claimed were an "error" and had them turned back on).").
> > Even though discussion of an Individual Domain Name Holders
> > Organization or Constituency is on-topic, postings threatening
> > other members of the General Assembly (the posting starts
> > with the lines "I might suggest that you watch your moves.")
> > and repeating unsubstantiated allegations are against the
> > list rules which call for "a minimum of decorum".
> >
> > The list monitors also find that William X. Walsh has broken
> > the posting limit, even though he is well aware of it and even
> > the way it is calculated (as can be seen from
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02813.html).
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:33:32
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02971.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:10:12
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02983.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:55:52
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02988.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:20:49
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02990.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:36:23
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02995.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:16:39
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03001.html
> > Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:18:54
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03002.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that William X. Walsh has been
> > previously warned and suspended twice; one of the
> > suspensions has been overturned.
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of William X. Walsh for four weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > The list monitors find that Jim Fleming has violated
> > the list rules by sending messages without any relevance
> > to the business of the GA to the list.
> > Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:46:18
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03321.html
> >
> > The list monitors note that Jim Fleming has just recently
> > received a warning for breaking the list rules (posting
> > limit violation).
> >
> > The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
> > rights of Jim Fleming for two weeks. This decision
> > can be appealed to the GA Chair.
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ~k
> >
> > Kristy McKee (for the List Monitors)
> >   Kristy McKee 612.823.2418
> >   .W I D G I T A L.Espware.
> >
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