Re: [ga] Consumer/Registrant Protection Consitituency

[Eric Dierker <eric@HI-TEK.COM>]

Dear Contributors,

I have just completed consuming this entire thread which can be found at
dnso.org.  We clearly have two separate groups here which I believe should be
combined for the purpose of starting up the Individual Constituency.  I do not own
a single domain name.  Oh I could have several transferred within the hour to be
placed under my name but right now I do not own a domain name.  Why should I.  I
do not want to hold it or own it, I just want to use them.  I would say we have a
fifty fifty split of Multimedia marketing clients that own their domains and of
the fifty percent that do probably fifty percent don't know it. And of the fifty
percent that do know probably 75 percent don't know who the registrar of the name
is or the admin. contact.

Users Individuals versus owners or holders individuals is a tough nut and for the
time being we should lump them together.  Then in their own forum they can work it
out certainly one of their first orders of business will be this whole
transferability issue.

Sincerely,
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Joop, Erica and all assembly members,
>
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > At 12:06 29/07/2001 +0800, erica wrote:
> >
> > >NAME:
> > >If there is general agreement that we need a constituency whose job is to
> > >ensure that the interests of consumers of domain names (Registrants)
> > >interests are protected, then its a good idea to ensure that's reflected in
> > >the name:  ie. Lets call the proposed new constituency the
> > >Consumer/Registrants Protection Constituency (C/RPC)
> >
> > Dear Erica,
> > Whilst I agree with some of your observations, I I have a problem  seeing
> > Domain Name Registrants as consumers.
>
>    Perhaps we could agree that Domain Name Owners are both consumers
> and Domain Name owners as well.  Some Domain Name Owners DO
> visit and conduct consuming activities on other sites such as Amazon.com
> for instance...
>
> >
> > An Individual Registrant  does not register a Domain Name to consume it.
>
>   Obviously...  >;)
>
> >
> > One registers it to own it (or to hold it, if you wish), and to build it up
> > as an asset or an Internet presence.
> > Or perhaps to otherwise exercise rights normally associated with the
> > ownership of an asset.
> >
> > There is much more involved than simply protecting consumers against being
> > ripped-off.
>
>   Yes there is.  One of those things is to be able to clearly show and
> provide information that some Internet organizations of various
> types are legitimate and do as they purport to do openly.  This
> is and area that ICANN itself needs significant improvement in
> and one reason so many watch-Dog groups are eyeing
> Internet organizations of late.
>
> >
> > ICANN is being set up as the wielder of power over Internet presence or
> > non-presence.
>
>   Perhaps.  Certainly this seems to be what the ICANN BoD and staff
> would like to think.  However ICANN presently only has the power
> that the stakeholders allow for it to have or get away with thinking it has...
>
> >
> >
> > In order to make the constituency really representative in ICANN , one
> > wants a constituency of the Holders/Owners themselves, as Individual Human
> > beings (who as content providers have concerns way beyond those of mere
> > consumers), not  as a constituency of "protectors" or organizations that
> > purport to protect.
> > These, if truly non-commercial, should be represented in the NCDNHC.
>
>   Again perhaps.  However as the Constituency model is increasingly
> under pressure and scrutiny as to being less that representative
> and the ICANN BoD is being extremely selective in the formation
> of constituencies, these organizations are seeking other avenues
> in increasing numbers.
>
> >
> >
> > For the IDNH, the challenge is the construction of membership driven
> > institutions, that can truly scale.
>
>   A daunting task as I can attest to.  But one that requires funding first,
> and construction to follow on...
>
> >
> >
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> Regards,
>
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