RE: [ga] Re: Documentation request

["Peter de Blanc" <pdeblanc@usvi.net>]

I'd suggest that you (those of you who wish to organize the IDNHC)
arrange for your own funding, at least until you have a non-profit
corporation, a bank account, a secretariat, and maybe even a part-time
"policy officer" or executive.  Then you could propose entering into a
Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with ICANN, similar to the Regional
ASOs.

You should be able to accomplish that for US $ 50,000. 200 people at $
250 each could be "founders" 

You have to start from a position of strength if you want to get
anywhere. Once you are established, and gain mailing list support of,
say 1 million or so DN holders, you might be able to suggest that the
registrars or registries kick in a percent or something towards funding.

It will NOT work to ask for funding to a non-incorporated body that has
only 100 or 200 or even 500 Domain name holders, as being representative
of a majority of IDNH persons.

After all, even 1.0 percent of US $ 250 million in domain name fees
would be $ 2.5 million dollars. That is 5 times the CENTR budget, 25
times the ccTLD budget, and about 50% of the budget of ICANN itself.

This is a serious post. There is no sarcasm here. It is my considered
suggestion as to a possible way for you to move forward.


Pet3er de Blanc

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Jefsey
Morfin
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:15 PM
To: ga@dnso.org
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Documentation request 


Dear Ken, Danny, Peter, and others,
the problem with the IDNHC - as with the IUC - is to start moving: a
secretariat, a site, an organization which has to develop before people
are gathered and start discussing, so before there is anything.

This means two things:
- an existing organization with resources - even minimum but
   including a banking account
- and some money to put into the account.

The world@wide foundation can provide a small organization, banking
account and initial site provided it gets some helps. Its role is NOT to
get involved, just to help with practical aspects. This way everyone
could share into the project (since everyone is supportive) while no one
would be suspicious about "hidden agenda" or "imposed" structures.

Once the we would start compiling information it would be passed to
IDNHC sub list on the GA. And the world@wide would handle the site,
sites, etc... to the IDNHC as created by the DN Holders with most
probably the help of everyone here. We know that Joop, DPF, Joana are
ready to commit resources enough for a nice document.

But it would be very nice if we could find some funding. So if anyone
has concrete suggestion. I think we could manage with a few thousands.
Would NSI be willing to help and share into the project or any
Registrars or new TLD?

I suppose this could be a loan as the constituency could make paid the
use of its label as some quality certificate for DN seller. If only one
or 2 cent per DN were donated to the IDNHC in exchange, it would have
its budget.

Jefsey



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On 02:19 15/08/01, Ken Stubbs said:
>if you want to be pessimistic here danny the let me propose another 
>scenario...
>
>this is supposed to be a "self-organizing" , "bottoms-up"  process and 
>if the "criteria" your talking about was developed in the manner you 
>prescribe (i.e. my my associates and myself).. we would almost 
>undoubtedly encounter indignation on the part of potential "self 
>organizers" over the fact that some sort of "criteria" or "structure" 
>was being "imposed" on them..
>
>the other 7 constituencies "self organized", developed consensus, and 
>"reached out" for potential fellow constituents. that way they got what

>they wanted in an organizational structure and eligibility criteria.. 
>none of that  was " imposed" ..
>
>sum & substance.....
>
>bring the NC & the board something with "substance & support" and i 
>will help make it fly... i have made this committment publicly now for 
>well over a year & a half ...
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
>To: <ga@dnso.org>
>Cc: <kstubbs@digitel.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 7:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Documentation request
>
>
> > Ken Stubbs is looking for a "concrete proposal".
> >
> > I would be willing to bet that if a concrete proposal was submitted 
> > to the Board today, the only response that we would receive would 
> > be:
> >
> > "Whereas the ICANN Board is in receipt of a proposal regarding the 
> > establishment of a new DNSO constituency; Whereas the Names Council 
> > has been notified that the ICANN Board expects
>to
> > receive a bottom-up community-based consensus proposal regarding 
> > criteria governing the establishment of new constituencies; Whereas 
> > the Board is not in receipt of such proposal from the Names
>Council;
> > It is hereby resolved that no action on this matter is to be taken 
> > at this time."
> >
> > Perhaps Ken can motivate his associates on the Council to finish 
> > drafting such criteria before Montevideo.  If they can commit to 
> > finishing this project by then (the Council Business Plan, after 
> > all, was drafted back in February), then I am sure that our 
> > motivated members can have a concrete proposal ready.
> >
> > If we all cooperate we can get this job done.  Ken, are you willing 
> > to
>take
> > the lead on this in the Council?  Can you settle the issue of 
> > "criteria",
>so
> > that any concrete proposal may be examined in light of this 
> > "criteria"?
>We
> > are awaiting the efforts of the Council.  Can we count on your 
> > support to have the Council complete its work in a timely fashion?
> >
>
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