Re: [ga] Re: Documentation request

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

Dear Ken, Danny, Peter, and others,
the problem with the IDNHC - as with the IUC - is to start moving:
a secretariat, a site, an organization which has to develop before
people are gathered and start discussing, so before there is anything.

This means two things:
- an existing organization with resources - even minimum but
   including a banking account
- and some money to put into the account.

The world@wide foundation can provide a small organization, banking
account and initial site provided it gets some helps. Its role is NOT
to get involved, just to help with practical aspects. This way everyone
could share into the project (since everyone is supportive) while no
one would be suspicious about "hidden agenda" or "imposed" structures.

Once the we would start compiling information it would be passed
to IDNHC sub list on the GA. And the world@wide would handle the
site, sites, etc... to the IDNHC as created by the DN Holders with
most probably the help of everyone here. We know that Joop, DPF,
Joana are ready to commit resources enough for a nice document.

But it would be very nice if we could find some funding. So if anyone
has concrete suggestion. I think we could manage with a few
thousands. Would NSI be willing to help and share into the project
or any Registrars or new TLD?

I suppose this could be a loan as the constituency could make paid
the use of its label as some quality certificate for DN seller. If only
one or 2 cent per DN were donated to the IDNHC in exchange, it
would have its budget.

Jefsey



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On 02:19 15/08/01, Ken Stubbs said:
>if you want to be pessimistic here danny the let me propose another
>scenario...
>
>this is supposed to be a "self-organizing" , "bottoms-up"  process and if
>the "criteria" your talking about was developed in the manner you prescribe
>(i.e. my my associates and myself).. we would almost undoubtedly encounter
>indignation on the part of potential "self organizers" over the fact that
>some sort of "criteria" or "structure" was being "imposed" on them..
>
>the other 7 constituencies "self organized", developed consensus, and
>"reached out" for potential fellow constituents. that way they got what they
>wanted in an organizational structure and eligibility criteria.. none of
>that  was " imposed" ..
>
>sum & substance.....
>
>bring the NC & the board something with "substance & support" and i will
>help make it fly... i have made this committment publicly now for well over
>a year & a half ...
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
>To: <ga@dnso.org>
>Cc: <kstubbs@digitel.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 7:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Documentation request
>
>
> > Ken Stubbs is looking for a "concrete proposal".
> >
> > I would be willing to bet that if a concrete proposal was submitted to the
> > Board today, the only response that we would receive would be:
> >
> > "Whereas the ICANN Board is in receipt of a proposal regarding the
> > establishment of a new DNSO constituency;
> > Whereas the Names Council has been notified that the ICANN Board expects
>to
> > receive a bottom-up community-based consensus proposal regarding criteria
> > governing the establishment of new constituencies;
> > Whereas the Board is not in receipt of such proposal from the Names
>Council;
> > It is hereby resolved that no action on this matter is to be taken at this
> > time."
> >
> > Perhaps Ken can motivate his associates on the Council to finish drafting
> > such criteria before Montevideo.  If they can commit to finishing this
> > project by then (the Council Business Plan, after all, was drafted back in
> > February), then I am sure that our motivated members can have a concrete
> > proposal ready.
> >
> > If we all cooperate we can get this job done.  Ken, are you willing to
>take
> > the lead on this in the Council?  Can you settle the issue of "criteria",
>so
> > that any concrete proposal may be examined in light of this "criteria"?
>We
> > are awaiting the efforts of the Council.  Can we count on your support to
> > have the Council complete its work in a timely fashion?
> >
>
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