Re: [ga] GA/DNSO Funding Issues

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Mark and all assembly members,

Mark Flynn wrote:

> What we are talking about here is having ICANN try and play a role in
> facilitating universal access to the Internet, which is essentially part of
> the concept of universal delivery of telecommunications services. This would
> appear to be well outside the scope of operation of an organisation like
> ICANN, although perhaps they should participate in some way with the many
> other national and global organisations trying to achieve this ideal.
> Organisations like the UN (UNDP/UNOPS and other UN agencies),  World Bank,
> ITU, or national government agencies like the USA FCC and Department of
> Agriculture, etc.

  Exactly correct.  Well done!  And welcome to the discussions as well!  >;)

>
>
> The reality that much, approximately 1/3, of the worlds population are still
> waiting to be able to make a telephone call, and now need to be able to use
> the Internet, presents a major global development problem. The problem is
> also more than just "fundamentally a technical problem" it involves major
> changes to many national telecommunication operating environments around the
> world, changes that would introduce competition where there is none, and
> stronger regulatory policies where they may be currently lacking.  Changes
> that would try to introduce information and communications technologies
> (ICT) into markets (communities) that do not necessarily have the economic
> maturity to pay for them yet, the bottom line being that someone has to pay
> for the set-up and operating costs of telecommunications, no matter what
> form they take. Hence the chicken and the egg syndrome.
>
> For more information on how Oregon probably got networked take a look at the
> report titled National Approaches to Meeting the Communication Needs of
> Rural and Remote Users at http://www.circit.rmit.edu.au/publics/index.html
> this will cost you AU$22, there are no doubt many other similar documents
> available on the Internet, if others know of them I am interested in this
> subject matter. Take a look at
> http://www.peoplefirst.net.sb/General/PFnet.htm , also used in other
> locations around the world, for an example of how slow things can get but at
> least they will have some form of telecommunications beyond a voice echoing
> over a VHF/UHF radio.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of William
> > S. Lovell
> > Sent: Monday, 27 August 2001 5:55 PM
> > To: Roeland Meyer
> > Cc: vany@sdnp.org.pa; L Gallegos; ga@DNSO.org
> > Subject: Re: [ga] GA/DNSO Funding Issues
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Roeland Meyer wrote:
> >
> > > Bill, we have here a classic boundary problem. There are a
> > number of other
> > > entities that are taking on the access issues. One of those
> > that I belong to
> > > is the ISOC (www.isoc.org). Also, the ICANN is supposed to
> > be a technical
> > > coordination body.
> >
> > Don't think so. What you term a "social service" is in fact the core
> > requirement of the MoU: technical coordination of the Internet for
> > the public good.  To limit the "public" to those already
> > neatly connected
> > constitutes mission abandonment: the "public" is taken, in
> > ICANN terms,
> > to mean only those who already have the technology to be connected,
> > whereas it is highly doubtful that that is what the USG meant. To get
> > people connected is to string wires or the like and then get
> > those wires
> > to work together, and that is fundamentally a technical problem.
> >
> > > What you advocate here would constitute mission-creep,
> > > because it falls in the realm of social services. Firstly,
> > I don't think
> > > that ICANN can even do it. That's not the core business.
> > Secondly, the
> > > resources aren't there. Thirdly, it's not our call to make.
> > >
> > > BTW, HTML mail is a bear to format a reply to.
> >
> > I know.  I hate little blue lines. But when that's what one gets, what
> > is one to do? (I've tried sending replies as text only, but once one
> > starts in HTML, distinctions as to who wrote what can again get
> > lost.  But I'll send this text and see again what happens.)
> >
> > Bill
> >
>

Regards,

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