Re: [ga] Money

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric, Rick and all assembly members,

  As promised Eric, I am posting my response here to the GA
as they are obviously effected and involved and deserve to
be included as such...

(More of my response/comments below Eric's)

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Jeff and Rick,
>
> I really think that Jeff's thinking here is correct.  Since there is no rule
> excluding it, we should take the liberty to do it.

  I wasn't referring to any "Rule", I stated clearly that the ICANN
Bylaws do not prevent the GA from having their own funding.
(See my exact statement below in my previous response)

>  There is a really cool latin
> legal term for it, something like nonexclusio inclusio.  I think the same should
> hold true for the appointments by Danny.  Just do it!

  As I am usually a strong believer in the "Just Do It" method for many
things, this is not TWO of them.  Just Do It Right, is more like it IMHO.

 - Qualifications for Treasurer should be outlined.
 - Fund or funds (Various accounts) should be established initially
    that outline what the funds, when collected, ar to be used for.
-Budgeting for those funds for specific projects should be decided
  by the GA membership or at least approved by the GA membership
  before disbursement via vote of the GA.
- The treasurer should decide what financial institution will be the
   holding firm for the accounts.  And the treasurer should disburse them
   in a manner that is appropriate, legal, and above all safe/secure.
- The accounts should be available to any and all GA members either
   Via a web page or by request to the treasurer at any time.  I would
   suggest the former.
-The treasurer must be bonded or be able to become bonded and the funds
  to pay for such bonding if necessary should come from the GA funds.

  Some may think this will take too much time.  Well I can dispel that
notion.  I have on many occasions set this up in a period not exceeding
two weeks.

>
>
> Now this does not mean that I think we should leave it this way.  We should keep
> up with pressing business and work on good rules to asure appropriate
> representativeness in the future.

  As the DNSO is part of ICANN as a whole as a supporting organization
in the current structure, the "Rules" as you say must adhere to the ICANN
Bylaws.  Any legitimate "Rules" that the GA itself has or will have in the
future must be in place first, before proceeding or as you do proceed,
not afterwards.  To do so afterwards invites scams of various sorts
that it would lead to disenfranchisement and distrust, both of which
the ICANN and the DNSO already has enough of now.  So let's
not add insult to injury and proceed in an after the fact way here...

>
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Rick and all assembly members,
> >
> >   Excuse me Rick, but why can't the GA collect and set up it's
> > own accounting and treasurer to handle however many accounts
> > it may require?  As far as I know there is nothing in the bylaws
> > that prevents this...  Please advise...
> >
> > Thank you in advance for you consideration and cooperation
> > in this regard.
> >
> > Rick H Wesson wrote:
> >
> > > Eric,
> > >
> > > first you need to see if ICANN will allow the GA to use its accounts, most
> > > constituencies use ICANN to collect monies, if the GA had a chair, and
> > > secretary and could collect and disemberse monies then you would be on the
> > > way to funding the GA.
> > >
> > > If you can do this then you are on your way, but not before.
> > >
> > > -rick
> > >
> > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:
> > >
> > > > We need funding right here and right now.  Of course it will be a long
> > > > process and I truly ask those with Ideas to contribute.  Let us take the
> > > > long term, non defeatist, point of view and establish a committee to
> > > > first bring us links and connections to funding and then form a group to
> > > > send feelers out and then decide what we should do in order to bridge
> > > > this should to will do gap.
> > > >
> > > > Life is good,
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
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