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RE: [ga] Stalled


Hello Marc and Jefsey,

That has been my point for the past few weeks. IMHO, the value-proposition
isn't there. What does the participant get for their efforts? Once is fun,
but active participation isn't "fun" stuff, except for the very sick.
Without a way to implement the results of the discussion it becomes a moot
effort. If we cannot point at a process that shows a means to implement real
results, most people would rather not make the (very large) effort. The
whole thing becomes not much more than endless prattle. Most healthy folks
don't believe in wasting [much of] their time in such idle chatter.

Such a simple thing as guaranteeing a vote on the NC, or a presentation slot
with the BoD, would make all the difference. Give the GA a couple of seats
on the NC and you will be amazed at how many members you will gain.
Similarly, if the GA had a guaranteed BoD presentation slot. The @large
elections had such a huge turn-out because the value-offering was ICANN BoD
seats. There was a direct, non-imaginary, connection.



|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Jefsey Morfin [mailto:jefsey@wanadoo.fr]
|> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:34 PM
|> To: ga@dnso.org
|> Subject: Re: [ga] Stalled
|> 
|> 
|> Dear Marc,
|> I wish I know a way to get some Members for the GA. We made 
|> a big effort 
|> about that a few months ago I reported in here in France. AFNIC, 
|> france@large and private people. The result was good making 
|> France the 
|> second represented country, but only a few shared in here. 
|> Only a part voted.
|> 
|> IMHO the reason why is that betting involved in the @large 
|> election is fun. 
|> Once. Getting involved with the ICANN, what for?
|> 
|> Jefsey
|> 
|> 
|> On 19:17 29/11/01, Marc Schneiders said:
|> >Alexander Svensson wrote:
|> >
|> > > Frankly, I wish the GA cared more about finding
|> > > adequate people for the Chair and Vice-Chair position
|> > > -- nominations start in just over a week!
|> >
|> >Since it seems things are very much stalled, I have thought 
|> about getting
|> >more people (and I do not mean a million) to subscribe to 
|> the ga voting
|> >registry (and list??). You have a chanal to make an attempt.
|> >
|> >Individuals will not get a real voice in ICANN soon through 
|> the At Large,
|> >if ever.  One does not need a domain to get into the ga. 
|> Why not try to
|> >enlist people though your website? The ga is free. At Large 
|> won't be.
|> >
|> >I know the ga has no power. Still, if there were thousands 
|> who backed up
|> >an idea or proposal, or voted for it, ICANN could hardly ignore it
|> >completely. I am not worried about capture or fraud. Isn't 
|> ICANN beyond
|> >that already?
|> >
|> >If more people are part of the ga, we will have more 
|> candidates for chair
|> >etc. Even if not, maybe, quickly enough, right now.
|> >
|> >--
|> >Marc@Schneiders.ORG
|> >
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