RE: [ga] Stalled

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

True this is why the ALSC is absurd or "purchased" by VeriSign (ie lead by 
Joe Sims). True @large are the people who would attend the GA should 9 BoD 
seats be elected by the GA. With the DN obligation we will probably see 
Registry and Regustrars running a sales show out of it and introducing 
again tens of throusand of ignaramuses they will inform their own way.

IAt 23:38 29/11/01, Roeland Meyer wrote:
>Hello Marc and Jefsey,
>
>That has been my point for the past few weeks. IMHO, the value-proposition
>isn't there. What does the participant get for their efforts? Once is fun,
>but active participation isn't "fun" stuff, except for the very sick.
>Without a way to implement the results of the discussion it becomes a moot
>effort. If we cannot point at a process that shows a means to implement real
>results, most people would rather not make the (very large) effort. The
>whole thing becomes not much more than endless prattle. Most healthy folks
>don't believe in wasting [much of] their time in such idle chatter.
>
>Such a simple thing as guaranteeing a vote on the NC, or a presentation slot
>with the BoD, would make all the difference. Give the GA a couple of seats
>on the NC and you will be amazed at how many members you will gain.
>Similarly, if the GA had a guaranteed BoD presentation slot. The @large
>elections had such a huge turn-out because the value-offering was ICANN BoD
>seats. There was a direct, non-imaginary, connection.
>
>
>
>|> -----Original Message-----
>|> From: Jefsey Morfin [mailto:jefsey@wanadoo.fr]
>|> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:34 PM
>|> To: ga@dnso.org
>|> Subject: Re: [ga] Stalled
>|>
>|>
>|> Dear Marc,
>|> I wish I know a way to get some Members for the GA. We made
>|> a big effort
>|> about that a few months ago I reported in here in France. AFNIC,
>|> france@large and private people. The result was good making
>|> France the
>|> second represented country, but only a few shared in here.
>|> Only a part voted.
>|>
>|> IMHO the reason why is that betting involved in the @large
>|> election is fun.
>|> Once. Getting involved with the ICANN, what for?
>|>
>|> Jefsey
>|>
>|>
>|> On 19:17 29/11/01, Marc Schneiders said:
>|> >Alexander Svensson wrote:
>|> >
>|> > > Frankly, I wish the GA cared more about finding
>|> > > adequate people for the Chair and Vice-Chair position
>|> > > -- nominations start in just over a week!
>|> >
>|> >Since it seems things are very much stalled, I have thought
>|> about getting
>|> >more people (and I do not mean a million) to subscribe to
>|> the ga voting
>|> >registry (and list??). You have a chanal to make an attempt.
>|> >
>|> >Individuals will not get a real voice in ICANN soon through
>|> the At Large,
>|> >if ever.  One does not need a domain to get into the ga.
>|> Why not try to
>|> >enlist people though your website? The ga is free. At Large
>|> won't be.
>|> >
>|> >I know the ga has no power. Still, if there were thousands
>|> who backed up
>|> >an idea or proposal, or voted for it, ICANN could hardly ignore it
>|> >completely. I am not worried about capture or fraud. Isn't
>|> ICANN beyond
>|> >that already?
>|> >
>|> >If more people are part of the ga, we will have more
>|> candidates for chair
>|> >etc. Even if not, maybe, quickly enough, right now.
>|> >
>|> >--
>|> >Marc@Schneiders.ORG
>|> >
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