Re: [ga] Good News

["Pascal Bernhard - cube" <pbernhard@cube.de>]

Jeff and all assembly members,

On 29 Nov 2001, at 22:26, Jeff Williams wrote:

>   Thank you for your comments.  The are quite interesting and
> I hope thought provoking to everyone.  I have a few
> comments/clarifications
> to your comments/observations.  (See below yours)

Sure. I hope the provocation has been heard. As you may be aware, 
my official (and true) position may be read in the White Paper of 
BORooN.

Still there are precisions to be made about the words used, thank 
you for that, Jeff. See my statements below.

> > >   ORSC, New.Net, INEGroup(Many web sites for instance) and a few
> > > others kinda beat you to the punch by about 1 1/2 years.  But we
> > > hope we will be glad you are going to be on board!  >;)
> >
> > Jeff, I'm not sure what board you mean.
> 
>   No "Board" of any particular type of kind.  Rather it is a manner of
> expression or speech.

Still a "board" determines a side or a community. That is, there 
should be a principle, which tight members together on the board. 
The question was in fact what principle defines the board you mean, 
even if it is just an idiomatic expression.

> > As far as my experience with
> > alternative roots reaches, all are trying to push their own system on
> > the market.
> 
>   This may be true of "Alternative Roots" in some instances.  However I
> was not referring to "Alternative Roots".  I was referring to Inclusive
> and/or Competitive Root structures and/or registries.  Big difference in
> most instances.  ORSC is NOT and "Alternative" root, by the way..

For ICANN and most of the people out of here, all roots which are not 
managed by ICANN are alternative roots. Please don't expect people 
out of the classical industry (or old economy) to understand what is a 
root. Among the alternative roots, there are inclusive and exclusive 
roots. The definition of inclusive and exclusive seems to differ from 
community to community. I use inclusive roots as an expression for 
a root which includes the *official* roots.

The result of having many inclusive roots, is that they show on a 
common namespace (ICANN) and on own namespaces which may 
be different.

BTW: under this definition, ORSC is not an inclusive root, because 
.biz and .info are not shown in the namespace of ICANN.

I'm not sure to understand the expression competitive root structures.

Jefsey brought once the concept of coopetitive structures. I 
understand this as competitive root networks which share the same 
root file. That is the model BORooN supports.

> > As divided systems, they are too weak to have a real weight in the
> > balance with ICANN, even if ORSC has 40 Mio. hits. What's a hit,
> > anyway?
> 
>   What is a hit you ask?  Hummmm?  Well it is in essence an event when a
> stakeholder/user visits a particular Web site.

Jeff, I know what a hit is. But what is the _real_ comunication 
significance of a hit? If one Web site hat 20 gifs, one pageview 
makes 21 hits. By 2 millions hits, it just states about fewer than 
100000 pageviews, which is another relation.

> > > > You see some interests want a non-profit legitimacy and I lied and
> > > > said this reference to the GA and AL would give it to them.  Nope
> > > > nothing official but a guaranteed million hits a day by May 2002. 
> > > > It is so sweet - it will just say "do you want to be a part of
> > > > running the worlds' Internet click here" Of course it will include
> > > > things like You could be the next General Assembly Chair or you
> > > > could sit on the BoD of ICANN"

>   Is Mindspring (The 4th largest ISP) a real "Carrier"?  If it is in
> your opinion than in case you didn't know, they resolve New.nets TLD's
> and Domain Names registered in those name spaces.

That states, that new.net is running an adequate market strategy. Do 
you look at new.net as an inclusive/competitive root structure? Do 
you think the reaction of ICANN against new.net is adequate?

Regards,
Pascal
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