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RE: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international terror

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  • Subject: RE: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international terror
  • From: Joseph <fhlee@tm.net.my>
  • Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:29:37 +0800
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  • In-reply-to: <EA9368A5B1010140ADBF534E4D32C72806A098@condor.mhsc.com>
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Roeland,
	Sorry, I accidentally did not send my previous post to the GA.  I'm doing
so now.

Roeland Meyer:
>>> If MY registered for embargo'd registrants then NSI might have to block
MY from the root-zone. NSI is a US registry under contract to US DOC.
AFAICT, there are contingent liability problems otherwise, for NSI. This is
what I was saying four years ago, policies at the root registry push down to
the sub-registries and registrars. Especially, those that are based in real
laws. It all depends on the jurisdiction of the registry and its upstream.
*** As I am not a lawyer, I can only state my opinion.  And my opinion is
that the above is false/cannot be done.  If NSI have to block MY from the
root-zone, US must have a clear sanction against MY.  This is like saying
that US will stop economic ties to countries that sells food to Afghanistan.
It is a whole chain reaction ending up that US having to sanction all
countries in the world.  A sanction is a direct ban.  Not indirectly.

regards,
- Joseph LEE (Fook Heng)
=========================


-----Original Message-----
From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 5:14 PM
To: 'Joseph'
Subject: RE: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international
terr or


If MY registered for embargo'd registrants then NSI might have to block MY
from the root-zone. NSI is a US registry under contract to US DOC. AFAICT,
there are contingent liability problems otherwise, for NSI. This is what I
was saying four years ago, policies at the root registry push down to the
sub-registries and registrars. Especially, those that are based in real
laws. It all depends on the jurisdiction of the registry and its upstream.

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|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Joseph [mailto:fhlee@tm.net.my]
|> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:13 AM
|> To: Roeland Meyer
|> Subject: RE: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international
|> terror
|>
|>
|> Hi Roeland,
|>
|> 	<snip> ... Registrars are simply resellers for Registry
|> services. If they
|> are registered with NSI then NSI has an obligation to comply
|> with US law.
|> Downstream, this means that non-REGISTRARs cannot register embargoed
|> entities with a US-based REGISTRY. [BTW, I don't see any
|> legal exceptions
|> for ccTLD managers, under US embargo rulings, either.]
|> *** Can you please elaborate on the [text] please?  ccTLDs
|> may/may not be
|> managed by a US company/incorporation. If I run a .my ccTLD
|> registry, and my
|> country does not have a sanction/embargo against the
|> registrant's country, I
|> [should] be able to accept the registration.
|>
|>
|> regards,
|> - Joseph Lee (Fook Heng)
|> ========================
|>

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