Re: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international terror

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joseph and all assembly members,

Joseph wrote:

> Roeland,
>         Sorry, I accidentally did not send my previous post to the GA.  I'm doing
> so now.
>
> Roeland Meyer:
> >>> If MY registered for embargo'd registrants then NSI might have to block
> MY from the root-zone. NSI is a US registry under contract to US DOC.
> AFAICT, there are contingent liability problems otherwise, for NSI. This is
> what I was saying four years ago, policies at the root registry push down to
> the sub-registries and registrars. Especially, those that are based in real
> laws. It all depends on the jurisdiction of the registry and its upstream.
> *** As I am not a lawyer, I can only state my opinion.  And my opinion is
> that the above is false/cannot be done.  If NSI have to block MY from the
> root-zone, US must have a clear sanction against MY.

  But the US does not have to block all of the .MY name space, only those
2nd level domain names that may be harboring terrorists or in some way
supporting them.  This is what Roeland was getting at.  Hence you contention
here Joseph is overkill and does not address the concern in a manner
that is necessary.

>  This is like saying
> that US will stop economic ties to countries that sells food to Afghanistan.

  Well the US  won't, but we could.  However this analogy is also not
appropriate to what Roeland was saying either. (See above my comments)

>
> It is a whole chain reaction ending up that US having to sanction all
> countries in the world.  A sanction is a direct ban.  Not indirectly.

  There are many levels of sanctions that the US could impose and does
presently.

>
>
> regards,
> - Joseph LEE (Fook Heng)
> =========================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 5:14 PM
> To: 'Joseph'
> Subject: RE: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international
> terr or
>
> If MY registered for embargo'd registrants then NSI might have to block MY
> from the root-zone. NSI is a US registry under contract to US DOC. AFAICT,
> there are contingent liability problems otherwise, for NSI. This is what I
> was saying four years ago, policies at the root registry push down to the
> sub-registries and registrars. Especially, those that are based in real
> laws. It all depends on the jurisdiction of the registry and its upstream.
>
> --
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> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Joseph [mailto:fhlee@tm.net.my]
> |> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:13 AM
> |> To: Roeland Meyer
> |> Subject: RE: [ga] The Network Solutions contribution to international
> |> terror
> |>
> |>
> |> Hi Roeland,
> |>
> |>      <snip> ... Registrars are simply resellers for Registry
> |> services. If they
> |> are registered with NSI then NSI has an obligation to comply
> |> with US law.
> |> Downstream, this means that non-REGISTRARs cannot register embargoed
> |> entities with a US-based REGISTRY. [BTW, I don't see any
> |> legal exceptions
> |> for ccTLD managers, under US embargo rulings, either.]
> |> *** Can you please elaborate on the [text] please?  ccTLDs
> |> may/may not be
> |> managed by a US company/incorporation. If I run a .my ccTLD
> |> registry, and my
> |> country does not have a sanction/embargo against the
> |> registrant's country, I
> |> [should] be able to accept the registration.
> |>
> |>
> |> regards,
> |> - Joseph Lee (Fook Heng)
> |> ========================
> |>
>
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