Re: [ga] Elections

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all assembly members,

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> On 03:05 10/12/01, Eric Dierker said:
> >I sometimes read into Jefseys' writing that he has an anarchist view
> >point toward ICANN.
> >
> >I ask him to deliberate on that point.
>
> 1. I want to thank Jeff for his nomination but I do not think I would
> professionally be able to afford the job. I merely spend time on the GA
> during program loadings or compilations. To take it as a real
> responsibility is out of my investment scheme, unless I would find a sponsor.

  I hope that you will reconsider or consider agreeing to at least run Jefsey.
I am also sure that Eric will be able to pick back up gathering sponsorship
for the GA in terms of funding.  This should include, as he pointed our
in a post yesterday (not subject), and I responded to, any and all the
funding that the DNSO GA and especially the next elected chair will
need.  GO Eric GO!

>
>
> 2. dear Eric, you ask a good question as my actions may look anarchist some
> times. I will certainly explain that again. I will try to keep it short,
> but I am afraid that revisiting the whole ICANN and Internet may ask for a
> few lines.
>
> My position is absolutely the reverse to anarchy. The Internet is
> technically a space of liberty. It is an interconnecting system what makes
> it totally distributed on a peer to peer architecture so any attempt to
> manage it as a star network (like the ICANN tries) or even as a meshed
> system as the ccTLDs try in organization themselves is a technical, social,
> commercial, political violation of the system architecture and
> participants' and world's legitimate expectations. So we may expect that on
> the short range - as we see the ICANN or on the medium range as we feel the
> ccTLDs, it will not work and will create us a major problem.
>
> I only recently realized that by chance I am one of the very few who
> experienced the way a peer to peer system of real magnitude (the
> international public packet service cooperated by public monopolies of the
> time) could work, make money, satisfy tens of thousands of users worldwide
> and the way it is be developed, built, deployed, operated, managed,
> marketed, supported and administered. Many others have thought, have
> planed, have dreamed about that: I got the chance to be paid by it for
> years. So I know that it works, how it works and why it works. At that
> level I think that only Joe Rinde, to some extent Bob Trehin, Jack
> McDonnell, Neil Sullivan and Bob McCormick experienced the same in the
> whole world, and to some very lower extent Bob Harcharick, the former boss
> of Vint Cerf.
>
> This is why I say the ICANN mission creep is blocking the world
> development. This is why I say the "alt(sic)root" issue is of interest but
> only as a temporary patch to the real question of the name space
> management. This is why I want the ICANN to assume fully and only its
> mission of light IANA registry functions as this is the best and only way
> to help the Internet resuming its contribution to the world's development.
> You may have noticed that the new economy crisis came at the time of Mike
> Roberts' TLD applications fee, of lack of portable IP addresses provision
> by ICANN and of international domain name uncertain announcement. These
> were odd elements of  instability which contributed to the loss of trust in
> the Internet imperial development.
>
> You see Internet is not a leader of the world's development. It is both
> "only" its mirror and its agent. As such it is the image of the people: it
> must reflect you and your dotcommers positions and address your needs. But
> as such it also must be an help for you and for all of them to make a new
> social step. The most rewarding news for me this last year was the creation
> of two aborigine TLDs. The Internet belongs to the people because it is the
> people. It only show the new ways the society is organizing: governance is
> not something particular to the Internet, it is a very common system
> developing everywhere to manage community consensus. Belgium - who
> presently conducts the EEC - wants to make it the next European workshop
> after the Euro. We are here talking about more serious things than the
> Staff secret meetings.
>
> So what you name my anarchy is only the firm belief that any messing
> against inadequate (non governance) structurations, creep and greed will
> ultimately protect every of us, allowing the community inner forces to
> stabilize us in a proper new order. Because this is the way the world
> always proceeded. Since I saw it working before at real international and
> Government level - I was a very small member of the State Department
> delegation at the CCITT (now ITU/T) and related with many Govs through the
> State Monopolies - I know it will happen again necessarily and that the
> ICANN stiffness and wrong network understanding is just delaying us. So
> delaying the ICANN until the ICANN understands is just saving us time,
> money, lifes and souls as the Internet is something serious for the world
> economy, people's health and common cultural deployment. Hence my demand
> that the ICANN considers its acts not to enlarge unwillingly the financial,
> lingual and digital divides, what I believe it really does without noticing
> it.
>
> For you to understand simply in simple words. On a star or on a meshed
> network the user station is considered as part of a tight or of a lose
> whole and therefore is controlled by others. Two systems you know well are
> used as models by the ICANN thinking: the XIXth century inherited legal
> system for Joe Sims and Louis Touton and the XXth telephone systems for
> many others.
>
> In a distributed system the boss is you. You control the system to see if
> it feet your needs and you use the services or the tools you want to do it.
> If we keep the image of mobiles : the mobile phones are a meshed network,
> the walkie-talkies are a distributed system. The difference is that in a
> real Internet architecture the ICANN is not the boss, it is the servant.
> For example its mission is to help you managing *your* root. For your own
> global private virtual network you shape the way you want with the
> connections you want and the banners you decide to accept.
>
> We could go very far in explaining how it works and pays. The only thing
> you have really to know is that it happens that the three components of our
> today Internet - the IP addresses, the TCP/IP protocol set and the DNS -
> are transparent to these philosophies of use. This means that stability and
> security do not depend on the ICANN - ICANN is a threat as long as it wants
> to be directive and is a help as soon as they accept to serve (Good Book
> says that if you want to be the boss you have to be the servant). Stability
> and security only depend on your own machine architecture which has nothing
> to do with IETF.
>
> If you want to keep going the Microsoft way and use Passport, whois, the
> USG root ... please do it.  You only subcontract these services. If you
> want to adopt a QuiEst approach, run your own root for your own global
> virtual private network you will forget about most of the ICANN except as
> being a convenient source of organized information you may want to use or
> event to contribute to, according to its published and equal to all ICP
> rules. You will even pay it for that service if you like it, the same as
> you do it today with McAffee or F-Prot to get a virus protection.
>
> Now, this long explanation being given, you see that the role of a Chair in
> a distributed environment is not to be a pusher as in a star network or a
> leader as in a meshed system (our world now is more and more distributed
> and the e-mail system is the best example of the force behind of this
> change: polylogue - as monologue goes with star network and dialogue with
> meshed systems). His role is to be a catalyst. And this is far more complex!
>
> Jefsey
>
>
>
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