Re: [ga] The Real World

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Kent and all assembly members,

  There are quite a few major differences between CPtech and
ICANN Kent that make you arguments incompatible.
Here are just a couple:

1.) Cptech is not a signatory of the White Paper or the MoU
     ICANN is.

2.) CPtech is not contractually involved in with the USG
      with respect ti the Internet central resources.  ICANN is.



Kent Crispin wrote:

> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:45:51PM -0400, James Love wrote:
> > Kent, what is the basis for having the ICANN board of directors elect the
> > ICANN board of directors?
>
> It is, in fact, quite common for boards of non-profits to select their
> own successors.  Let me illustrate why this is so by asking you a few
> questions:
>
> According to the website of the Consumer Project on Technology, it is an
> organization dedicated to representing the interests of consumers in a
> number of areas (ie, it is concerned with regulatory issues), and you
> are its director.  Were you elected to that position? If not, why not?
> To use your question, what was the basis for your not being elected?
>
> A more interesting question, of course, is how could you (or CPTech)
> claim to fairly and transparently represent the interests of consumers
> if you weren't elected to that position? Do you believe that the mere
> association with Ralph Nader's name is sufficient to remove all
> necessity for accountability? If you believe that CPTech can fairly
> represent the interests of consumers without holding public elections,
> why doesn't that apply to ICANN?  To be concrete, CPTech is doing
> things that may directly impact me, but I had absolutely no say in the
> positions that CPTech is adopting.  Why is that OK in the CPTech case?
>
> Another question I would like to know the answer to is whether there is
> a board of directors for CPTech (or it's apparent parent organization),
> and if so, are they elected through elections open to the general
> public? If not, what is the basis for that.  Note that this basic
> information is not available from the CPTech website -- could you
> explain why that is? Also, you reference grants, and how people can
> donate money to CPTech, but there is no public accounting of how you
> spend their money.  How can you justify this?
>
> I note on the web site that three staff members are mentioned; but in a
> recent message to the GA list you said "In our office of 25 people..."
> Who are these other people and what do they do?
>
> In sum it appears that CPTech, a non-profit organization that is deeply
> involved in governance issues, is not at all motivated to inform the
> public about its structure, how it is run, its finances, or its
> staffing.  I realize that ICANN and CPTech are very different in many
> ways, but there are also enough similarities that CPTech's profound lack
> of transparency and accountability is rather noteworthy.  Perhaps it
> doesn't matter to you, the director of CPTech, that the public doesn't
> have access to this elementary information about your organization.  Or
> perhaps you would really like to put up that information, but you just
> can't find the time (I can certainly sympathize with that).
>
> Incidentally, did you realize that CPTech apparently has about 50% more
> staff than ICANN? (ICANN has 17 people working for it, some of them part
> time).
>
> Kent
>
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