Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "gen full" <ga-full@dnso.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)


> Todd and all assembly members,
>
> todd glassey wrote:
>
> > The motion process was flawed though and neither one should have been
> > advanced. They are mutually exclusive of each other so any positive vote
for
> > one extinguishes the other.
>
>   I disagree in part here.  Both motions in many ways complimented each
other
> to one degree of another.  How there were presented for a vote by the
> GA members was certainly questionable and confusing purposefully
> IMHO however...
>
> > That is why this voting process is flawed,
> > because the boilerplate and process of the election did not stop to
mutually
> > exclusive motions from passing and thus causing a dilemma, I move to
declare
> > this vote null and void and  further move to suspend all future votes in
> > which this situation is allowed to occur.
>
>   No the voting process is not fatally flawed.  It does need some
> fine tuning.  But any motions that are put forth should be made
> available for a vote if at least 2 members second such motions.
> Thomas required 10 seconds, which of course was silly.
>
> >
> >
> > Personally I think this means that the voting regulations and process
need
> > to be changed, and to that end I would move the GA to commission a
Election
> > Process and Rules WG immediately to resolve this dilemma, so we can get
on
> > with the democratic management of the DNSO.
>
>   A WG would be a good idea to FINE TUNE ONLY the voting
> rules, yes...

OK that works with me. I support that.

>
> >
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roberto Gaetano" <ploki_xyz@hotmail.com>
> > To: <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>; <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)
> >
> > > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >There are truths that are not merely mathematical. There are lies
that
> > > >are.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There are some facts (whether they are matematical or not, I don't
know,
> > but
> > > AFAIK they are truths):
> > >
> > > a. both motions passed
> > >
> > > b. motion #2 gathered wider consensus than motion #1.
> > >
> > > Political interpretation of the value of these facts varies with the
> > opinion
> > > of the beholder, but whatever attempt to deny (or hide) the facts is
> > insult
> > > to the GA.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Roberto
> > >
> > >
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>
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