Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Todd and all assembly members,

  Great!  Glad you do suppport what I stated below.

todd glassey wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: "gen full" <ga-full@dnso.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)
>
> > Todd and all assembly members,
> >
> > todd glassey wrote:
> >
> > > The motion process was flawed though and neither one should have been
> > > advanced. They are mutually exclusive of each other so any positive vote
> for
> > > one extinguishes the other.
> >
> >   I disagree in part here.  Both motions in many ways complimented each
> other
> > to one degree of another.  How there were presented for a vote by the
> > GA members was certainly questionable and confusing purposefully
> > IMHO however...
> >
> > > That is why this voting process is flawed,
> > > because the boilerplate and process of the election did not stop to
> mutually
> > > exclusive motions from passing and thus causing a dilemma, I move to
> declare
> > > this vote null and void and  further move to suspend all future votes in
> > > which this situation is allowed to occur.
> >
> >   No the voting process is not fatally flawed.  It does need some
> > fine tuning.  But any motions that are put forth should be made
> > available for a vote if at least 2 members second such motions.
> > Thomas required 10 seconds, which of course was silly.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Personally I think this means that the voting regulations and process
> need
> > > to be changed, and to that end I would move the GA to commission a
> Election
> > > Process and Rules WG immediately to resolve this dilemma, so we can get
> on
> > > with the democratic management of the DNSO.
> >
> >   A WG would be a good idea to FINE TUNE ONLY the voting
> > rules, yes...
>
> OK that works with me. I support that.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roberto Gaetano" <ploki_xyz@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>; <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > > Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)
> > >
> > > > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >There are truths that are not merely mathematical. There are lies
> that
> > > > >are.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are some facts (whether they are matematical or not, I don't
> know,
> > > but
> > > > AFAIK they are truths):
> > > >
> > > > a. both motions passed
> > > >
> > > > b. motion #2 gathered wider consensus than motion #1.
> > > >
> > > > Political interpretation of the value of these facts varies with the
> > > opinion
> > > > of the beholder, but whatever attempt to deny (or hide) the facts is
> > > insult
> > > > to the GA.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Roberto
> > > >
> > > >
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