[ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] GAC Transparency

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all,

  Problem is that the expertise that Kent supposedly has is mostly
in his mind and thereby fantasy...  History shows this quite clearly.

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> Dear Jamie, Joop and James,
> I am afraid you are totally wrong about the reasons for secrecy at GAC and
> BoD. The US NSA gave the explanation when requested by G.W.Bush to look at
> the DNS. Them too had secret meetings.
>
> But one of these scientists technically explained why: when you do not know
> what you talk about you can do two things:
> - either discuss in secret so you may pretend that the wrong decisions are
> the responsibility of the others,
> - or have someone coming and explaining you first what you are talking about.
>
> Now the ICANN made a step ahead. They asked Kent Crispin to join them to
> get some competence over the DNS, with the positive results we all know.
> So, the next step is simple: to get G.W.Bush to design Kent as the US
> Embassador for DNS Affairs, so the GAC gets some expertise.
>
> When you think that 40 Embassadors went to Camberra, I suppose with an
> average of one assistant each. So 80 people travel and meeting expenses. To
> discuss the management of 13 micros delivering all the day long the 659
> addresses of 262 TLDs listed in a 70.984 bytes file (15.624 bytes zipped)
> with 60% of the responded calls being "error typo" ...
>
> If that non backed-up prime military/terrorist 13 micros target had not
> been made the basis of the developped world just to permit the
> "stakeholders" to go under a little bit latter .... it would be real fun.
> jfc
>
> PS. If you consider a low average cost of $ 4500 salary and T&L per meeting
> participant (some fly 1st class, Camberra is not the center of the AirLine
> World and no previous reservations) plus room, secretariat, etc. the
> Cambera Meeting probably costed $ 380.000, ie $ 5.35 per root/byte ($ 24.32
> per zipped root/byte) or $ 29,230.77 per root server machine (offered for
> free by voluntary effort). Anyone with a more precise evaluation is
> welcome. I note that 550.000.000 people in the world have access to the
> Internet and 1.500.000.000 have no access to drinkable water (96,006 people
> per zipped root/byte).
>
> On 14:11 13/06/02, James Love said:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> >: >Is there any known reason why the GAC has almost zero transparency?
> >:
> >: Relations between governments can be sensitive.
> >: Diplomacy and transparency are to an extent mutually exclusive.
> >
> >      Well, this isn't true, IMO.   There is a huge push globally to make
> >trade negotiations more transparent, in the WTO, WIPO, WHO, the Hague
> >Conference, ITU, everywhere.  There is still plenty of room for diplomacy.
> >People avoid transparency to avoid accountability.    The GAC is now chaired
> >by a non government persons who apparently is in business with Ira
> >Magaziner.  They have all of these secret discussions.  The didn't even put
> >the last meeting on their web page:
> >http://www.noie.gov.au/projects/international/DNS/gac/meetings/index.htm .
> >The papers presented are secret.   Many of the GAC members probably want
> >secrecy to avoid accountability at home, not for diplomacy, which they can
> >do in lots of ways, such as through embassies, in information discussions,
> >etc.
> >
> >    Jamie
> >
> >--------------------------------
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> >
> >
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Regards,
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