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[ga] Re: ICANN patrimony - the mighty five:
- To: "Richard J. Sexton Ph.D. J.D." <richard@vrx.net>, "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
- Subject: [ga] Re: ICANN patrimony - the mighty five:
- From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@jefsey.com>
- Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:34:21 +0100
- Cc: <ray@fassett.org>, <ga@dnso.org>, <ray@fassett.org>, <JimFleming@ameritech.net>, <yjpark@myepark.com>, <steinle@smartvia.de>, <love@cptech.org>, <karl@cavebear.com>, <k@widgital.com>, <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>, <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>, <baptista@dot-god.com>, <jo-uk@rcn.com>, <eric@hi-tek.com>, <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>, <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>, <andy@ccc.de>, <shore@quasar.net>, <espresso@e-scape.net>, <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
- In-Reply-To: <20021103182320.E6A6CD36F@ns1.vrx.net>
- Sender: owner-ga-full@dnso.org
On 19:23 03/11/02, Richard J. Sexton Ph.D. J.D. said:
> >To call on the words of Churchill, and apply them to the minions at Icann -
> >"We shall fight them in the fields, we shall fight them on the beaches, we
> >shall NEVER surrender."
>
>Yeah, but people had HEARD of WWII. It affected every living human at the time
>ans was a direct threat to their safety and lives. DNS is to the 1% of
>people who
>nkow what it is, merely the determining factor for what flavour of fashion
>stetement
>they have printed on their business card.
I think from experience that more and more European decision makers will
hear about the DNS and the Internet in the coming monhs. Obviously this
will call for work. But when I see the result accomplished I do not think
things are desperate.
One has to realize that the USA are now engaged in a world e-colonization
logic. That logic must be changed into an e-NATO or we are bound to a real
war sometimes and to the end of the USA as a superpower (not in five
minutes :-) because there is only one possible Internet and that they
cannot oppose the entire world. That war would be absurd but this were Joe
Sims leads us. I like the idea of the Senator wanting to sue hime for crime
against Humanity.
I do not say that more than 1/1000 people understand that, but when they
have been explained that their Windows 2005 will not have files anymore but
DNS access to local pages built from a proprietary M$ secured database,
with a bi-montly licence to pay to "MicroSign in Herndmond" under the
control of the SAIC fellows from San Diego, they do start being worried.
> >Now, let's keep up the fight.
> >We, from all nations, are the people of the world!
>
>Yeah yeah. In a couple of years I've have been doing this for almsot
>a decade, so please excuse the curmugeonry, but I'm cynical.
Richard, we are our Govs. We are not just lost people.
If Govs are properly managed they call upon the people who know. We are those.
Now they may not do it from their own move, so it is up to each of us to
reach the point where our own Gov understand whe are those who know or that
we can be a pain enough to consider we could.
To reach that point we are to help each others.
As Richard Sexton or as Jefsey Morfin or Richard Henderson we are not that
much imprssive for our own Govs. But with a working doctrine, with
operational systems, with an open organization showing that we know about a
network, with press relations, with some innovative ideas ... WE are our
Govs or part of them because we master a part of their capacity for
international "concertance".
This is where we are good: look at this thread: US, Canadia, British, NZ,
French, Korean, German, etc...
The big IETF, IAB, US culture mistake is about coordination/overlay
thinking. When they think network they think centralized, access,
leadership ... ie single point of failure, dominance, big businesses. Looks
big but it is weak. We need to think concerted thinking, underlay,
communityship, confederal. This is our real world, our market. In font of
the big bucks - I am not against some but I am against of the danger of
concentrating them - we need to show there is a tide. This is no political:
this is purely technical, societal 6 Billions of Internet users. You cannot
oppose a central point to such a network.
The central point may resist, all the more if it make you believe it is
important like ICANN. But it will not resist a long the day you accept that
it has no importance.
You were not wrong in what you said. You were wrong to have gone to Berlin
to meet with 200 people about the future ICANN. Why 200 and not 2000 or
2.000.000 or 2.000.000.000. Ask Joe Sims to cover the expense!
Forget about ICANN. Stop fighting it. Cooperate with all those who do not
care about it: 99,95% of the Internet users. Forget about IETF. And lead
them.With solutions they enjoy, let all of us do that in 190 countries, let
have a lose community showing we are not a small bunch of centrally
directed activits ...
but people who are fed-up with Arpanet patches. That we are people with
technical solutions and demands for an international stable, secure and
innovative system ...
and no one will care about them very soon....
May I remind you that we also are .... the market :-)
jfc
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