Re: [ga] ICANN vs. Reality

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Allan and all assembly members,

Allan Liska wrote:

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> Hello Jeff,
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> Thursday, December 5, 2002, 4:57:22 AM, you wrote:
>
> >>  Some of the people who don't
> >> get their domains will sue, doofus.
>
> JW>   Again, Domains are not TLD's.  TLD's are Top Level Domains...
> JW> And what "People" are you referring to?  Registrants, Registries or
> JW> potential registries?  If Registries or potential Registries, I also have no
> JW> doubt
> JW> that ICANN will again screw up and fail to abide by RFC1591 in it's
> JW> original form, and cherry pick, as they have thus far done, and the
> JW> legal community will again have an opportunity for a financial series
> JW> of windfalls due to unnecessary legal actions...  Again however most
> JW> if not all of that can be avoided.  Ball is in ICANN's court.  From the
> JW> sound or tone of Louis's comments as well as Stuart Lynn's indicated
> JW> direction, they seem to prefer to take a course that invites being sued...
>
> Of course we are talking about domains, the whole list and everything
> we talk about ultimately boils down to domains.

  No Allan not everything boils down to Domain Names on this forum.
Whois is not just about Domain Names for only one example.  Please
try to get a grip on reality!

>  Do you think the
> person in the article Dr. Berryhill really cares about the TLD rollout
> process?

  Yes I believe he does...  I can tell from the tone of you leading question
you don't however.  And there IS the crux of the flaw in your thus far,
presented arguments...

>  No, he cares that he did not get the domain he wanted.  So,
> he cries foul, says the process is flawed and he sues.

  Has he sued yet?  No, he has not.  Is he going to.  Maybe.  Can it be
avoided as this discussion and John's reference and comments are relevant
to?  Yes such legal actions can be avoided and should be, but not in the
process or way in which Louis and Stuart are trying to go about it...
Therefore Allan, it is indeed possible that ICANN will be yet again sued
as they are setting themselves up to be sued for reason or reasons that
are purely of their own making, yet are still very avoidable...  But if
as an organization through it's leadership is not willing to work WITH
the stakeholder/user community in a manner that meets the demands of that
stakeholder/user community, than legal actions, amongst other types
of actions will likely ensue.  Thus far the ICANN BoD and Staff
have yet again showed in Louis's comments to which John Berryhill
commented on and provided a good reference to, that they are unwilling,
or unable to work WITH the stakeholder/user community as has been the
central and most undermining problem with ICANN from nearly the
beginning.

>
>
> As far as violation of RFC 1591, I'll make you a deal: if you can tell
> me exactly how ICANN failed to abide by RFC 1591 I will register the
> domain inegroup.com for you, as it is obvious that you are too stupid to
> register the domain on your own.  You know what, if you can even tell
> me what RFC is an acronym for, I will register the domain for you.

  I would not make any "Deal" with you even if you paid me $1B US up front...

  INEGroup does not, and has never desired or needed a DN of it's own.
If I or any of our members wanted to register a DN for INEGroup we can
do that at any time.  I personally already have INEGroup.GOD now.  >;)

>
>
> allan
> - --
> Allan Liska
> allan@allan.org
> http://www.allan.org
>
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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