Re: [ga-rules] Bounced Messages & Other List Administration

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Mr. Honorable Lovell,

I like the sound of that, Change your reporter to judge with a clerk, a reporter,
bailiff and when necessary a jury and a couple of suits to argue.  Why should we
throw out perfectly good systems just because we are on line.  As I am sure you are
aware anyone can file anything in the California court system, even if it does not
meet procedural requirements you can file it "under exception". On a bet from
Melvin Belli I watched a young attorney file a pair of briefs with a handwritten
"brief" written on it. There is a reason for this and for the ga-full, no posting
should be excluded from being lodged but there should be a filter to what we all
must endure, if we chose, and it should be routed by professionals.

In order to set this up we need professionals like you to run these lists.  but
first we need the rules so that politics are taken out of posting.

eric

"William S. Lovell" wrote:

> I had suggested to someone a while back that with all the
> other stuff going on, reposting being done not only by the
> Chair or Alternate Chair and various others who see a
> thing that  they think others would like to see is a bit of
> a waste and duplication of effort. I often see stuff several
> times. That "mechanical" function is not a good way to
> spend the time of the C or Alt-C in any event. So it was
> my suggestion that a list have an official "reporter" or
> "journalist" or whatever; only that person would re-post,
> and those of us who think we found a goodie (that by
> chance had already been reposted and the person so
> finding had not noticed it) would send it to that "reporter,"
> and then the reporter could screen all of it and just repost
> each one only once.  (Or something like that; it's too early
> for me today already!) But it would get that journalist type
> involved in a working job, so to speak.  (Obviously, daily
> post limits should not apply to a journalist doing that job;
> that person's own observations, as parsed out below, would
> of course be subject.)
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
> > At 00:56 31.05.2001 +1000, Alternate Chair wrote:
> > >There are therefore three types of postings I might make (1) my own views on
> > >a subject of interest (2) reposts and corrections (3) GA announcements.
> > >Trying to perform these tasks could easily lead me to exceed my personal
> > >daily posting limit.  This would be a valid but unworthy cause for concern.
> > >
> > >Of course, I could easily just ignore mis-postings, filter bounced messages
> > >and not re-post ICANN Announcements or other relevant emails.  I see that as
> > >bowing to form rather than substance.  A better solution is to refer
> > >complaints of excess postings to the List Monitors who can make an impartial
> > >assessment.  Pity that this just adds to their already large burden.
> >
> > Patrick,
> > 1) There are ways of reposting a message (usually called "Redirect" or
> > "resend") where the message appears to come from the original sender, not
> > from you. You need the majordomo "approval password" to do this, of course.
> >
> > 2) Unless the message is urgent and important, I think it is better to
> > advise the sender that it was bounced than to forward it. That way, people
> > who want to be heard learn.
> >
> > 3) GA announcements should not be reposted, IMHO. Those who are on the
> > announce list get them, those who aren't may have a reason not to be.
> > If an announcement is of special importance to the GA, you should send a
> > message saying WHY it is important and an URL to the announcement archive
> > entry.
> >
> > In short - I think you could reduce your own workload and the list traffic
> > by doing less, and there would be no harm to the GA in doing so.
> >
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