Re: [ga-rules] Bounced Messages & Other List Administration

["William S. Lovell" <wsl@cerebalaw.com>]

A more remarkable set of non sequitors I've hardly ever
seen.

Bill Lovell

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Mr. Honorable Lovell,
>
> I like the sound of that, Change your reporter to judge with a clerk, a reporter,
> bailiff and when necessary a jury and a couple of suits to argue.  Why should we
> throw out perfectly good systems just because we are on line.  As I am sure you are
> aware anyone can file anything in the California court system, even if it does not
> meet procedural requirements you can file it "under exception". On a bet from
> Melvin Belli I watched a young attorney file a pair of briefs with a handwritten
> "brief" written on it. There is a reason for this and for the ga-full, no posting
> should be excluded from being lodged but there should be a filter to what we all
> must endure, if we chose, and it should be routed by professionals.
>
> In order to set this up we need professionals like you to run these lists.  but
> first we need the rules so that politics are taken out of posting.
>
> eric
>
> "William S. Lovell" wrote:
>
> > I had suggested to someone a while back that with all the
> > other stuff going on, reposting being done not only by the
> > Chair or Alternate Chair and various others who see a
> > thing that  they think others would like to see is a bit of
> > a waste and duplication of effort. I often see stuff several
> > times. That "mechanical" function is not a good way to
> > spend the time of the C or Alt-C in any event. So it was
> > my suggestion that a list have an official "reporter" or
> > "journalist" or whatever; only that person would re-post,
> > and those of us who think we found a goodie (that by
> > chance had already been reposted and the person so
> > finding had not noticed it) would send it to that "reporter,"
> > and then the reporter could screen all of it and just repost
> > each one only once.  (Or something like that; it's too early
> > for me today already!) But it would get that journalist type
> > involved in a working job, so to speak.  (Obviously, daily
> > post limits should not apply to a journalist doing that job;
> > that person's own observations, as parsed out below, would
> > of course be subject.)
> >
> > Bill Lovell
> >
> > Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> >
> > > At 00:56 31.05.2001 +1000, Alternate Chair wrote:
> > > >There are therefore three types of postings I might make (1) my own views on
> > > >a subject of interest (2) reposts and corrections (3) GA announcements.
> > > >Trying to perform these tasks could easily lead me to exceed my personal
> > > >daily posting limit.  This would be a valid but unworthy cause for concern.
> > > >
> > > >Of course, I could easily just ignore mis-postings, filter bounced messages
> > > >and not re-post ICANN Announcements or other relevant emails.  I see that as
> > > >bowing to form rather than substance.  A better solution is to refer
> > > >complaints of excess postings to the List Monitors who can make an impartial
> > > >assessment.  Pity that this just adds to their already large burden.
> > >
> > > Patrick,
> > > 1) There are ways of reposting a message (usually called "Redirect" or
> > > "resend") where the message appears to come from the original sender, not
> > > from you. You need the majordomo "approval password" to do this, of course.
> > >
> > > 2) Unless the message is urgent and important, I think it is better to
> > > advise the sender that it was bounced than to forward it. That way, people
> > > who want to be heard learn.
> > >
> > > 3) GA announcements should not be reposted, IMHO. Those who are on the
> > > announce list get them, those who aren't may have a reason not to be.
> > > If an announcement is of special importance to the GA, you should send a
> > > message saying WHY it is important and an URL to the announcement archive
> > > entry.
> > >
> > > In short - I think you could reduce your own workload and the list traffic
> > > by doing less, and there would be no harm to the GA in doing so.
> > >
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