[ga-udrp] Re: [ga] UDRP Questionnaire

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

This is a very significant issue and one that causes most of our problems in the
GA.  This is a startling example of how we from different walks in life have
different talks in life.

You fill in the blanks because how we define something is not nearly as important
as the recognition that we define the names differently;
Lawyer,                IP, Divorce, Bankruptcy, Corporate
Programmer,        front end, back end, graphics
Marketer,            U.S., Asian, Multimedia, Radio, Press
Webmaster,        Technical Site, In House, Marketing, e-commerce
Engineer,            Too numerous to list!

Now if we combine these differences with Nationalities and languages we begin to
see the enormous task of proper communication.  When Roberto, as he is so kind to
do, speaks in my native tongue and uses the term domain name he means something
entirely different than I do. NO not because he has a different National cultural
background but because he has a different educational cultural background. I am a
Trader, Advocate, Marketer policy wog.

We have to come to a better understanding here in order that our representative for
the UDRP matters can speak with confidence.

Sincerely,
Eric

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> Roberto et al.,
>
> So if MADONNA.COM is "a mnemonic way to reach a "thing" that has an Internet
> address" why does the popstar have some kind of claim to ownership of the
> domain?  Or how about the BARCELONA.COM domain?  I'm sorry Roberto, but your
> response is a little too simplistic, almost naive.  If I were to ask you what
> "gold" was would you tell me it was just a yellow metal?
>
> Labels in assembler programs mean specifically whatever the programmer assigns
> to them... in the case of domain names, where is the programmer who defines
> their signification?  Isn't the original registrant the arbiter of meaning as a
> domain name's creator?
>
> Regards,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>
> > Sotiris,
> >
> > I may miss the point, but to me a domain name is exactly what defined in the
> > document referenced by Sandy, i.e. a mnemonic way to reach a "thing" that
> > has an Internet address.
> >
> > This is why they have been created, anyway.
> >
> > This is the same reason why "labels" have been introduced in assembler
> > programs: to avoid to be obliged to reference the relative address of a code
> > statement.
> >
> > Regards
> > Roberto
> >
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> > >
> > >Sandy Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > > The closest thing to a definition, in rather formal terms:
> > > >
> > > > | 3.1. Name space specifications and terminology
> > > > |
> > > > | The domain name space is a tree structure.  Each node and leaf on the
> > > > | tree ...
> > > > |
> > > > | Each node has a label, ... One label is reserved, and that is
> > > > | the null (i.e., zero length) label used for the root.
> > > > |
> > > > | The domain name of a node is the list of the labels on the path from
> > > > | the node to the root of the tree.  By convention, the labels that
> > > > | compose a domain name are printed or read left to right, from the
> > > > | most specific (lowest, farthest from the root) to the least specific
> > > > | (highest, closest to the root).
> > >
> > >Thanks for digging this up Sandy, but as you know, this is simply a
> > >description
> > >of the DNS.
> > >
> > >Is anyone else aware of anything approaching a definition of Domain Names?
> > >I
> > >must admit, I am rather surprised that we have not heard from anyone in the
> > >IP
> > >field on this matter.  It seems to me that domain names must be *something*
> > >if
> > >they can be subjected to a "sham" (a la Bill Lovell) process such as the
> > >UDRP
> > >in the first place!  Surely somebody representing the IP community must
> > >have
> > >something to offer us on this topic?
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >
> > >Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > >
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