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Re: [ga-udrp] Typo-squatting, Registrars, & the UDRP
Chris and all,
These issues and situations highlighting these issues including the
parties (read companies in this instance) involved have very powerful
influence on steering events. This was what the ICANN BoD and
staff were and are supposed to ignore and instead move in a direction
where the playing field is level. The current UDRP obviously is a
prime example, and most likely the most glaring and influential,
example of how the ICANN BoD and staff, after hitching up
with WIPO, has failed and failed miserably. This issue will
likely be one of the more "Touchy" issues that the UDRP Task
Force will need to face head on but with a fair and considerate
approach. I am sure that you Chris, are up to the task and
will not fear for your future or be unduly influenced should you
be the GA's UDRP TF representative.
NameCritic wrote:
> Good example to use with Amazon. Another question is since WIPO wants to
> include geographical names to it's endangered domain species list, does
> Amazon have to give up it's domain name to the region in question? How about
> America On Line. As an American shouldn't I consider them to be in violation
> for registering that geographical name?
>
> Before you say the on line addition means no, remember AOL just won against
> AIMster.com even though they have a TM on just AIM. So adding the ster
> didn't help AIMster.com, so why should adding online protect America Online
> from losing their domain name?
>
> Ahh, but see we will never find that out because ICANN/WIPO would never take
> on these two giants. They might make an enemy or two and that could lose
> them some support. But let me or you register a geographical name like
> BarcelonaOnline.com and see what happens.
>
> That is the point here. No matter what rule they put in place, they will
> only apply it where the defender is too small to put up a good fight. They
> call all of us who own a lot of domain names cybersquatters to the press.
> Ever see them contend that Microsoft, AOL, or Proctor & Gamble were
> cybersquatters? No. They have a big corporation, therefore warehousing
> hundreds of domain names is proper. For an individual to do so is a
> violation of the rights of these corporations to have all the domain names
> they want.
>
> Proctor & Gamble sat on a lot of one-word domain names for years. They never
> used them for websites. Then they put them all up for sale. None of that was
> bad faith. Why? Money & Power & ICANN & WIPO.
>
> Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> To: <ga-udrp@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:34 PM
> Subject: [ga-udrp] Typo-squatting, Registrars, & the UDRP
>
> > There is a practice known as "typo-squatting" where a registrant will
> > register multiple variations of a domain name in the attempt to cash in on
> > the advertising "hits" generated by the site. I would ask, to what degree
> > are registrars responsible for encouraging this practice that leads to
> UDRP
> > proceedings?
> >
> > Milton Mueller, in his article "Rough Justice"
> > http://dcc.syr.edu/roughjustice.pdf cites the "case of a typo-squatter who
> > registered 244 variations on the name of the Swedish Telecommunication
> > company Telia".
> >
> > Currently, you can go to several major registrars and type in (for
> example)
> > amazon.com
> > After you are told that the name is taken, you will be offered a choice of
> > available derivatives (the list below is from Tucow's DomainDirect, but it
> > could have just as easily come from also every other registrar out there):
> >
> > 1-800-amazon.net
> > 1-800-amazon.org
> > 123amazon.com
> > 123amazon.net
> > 123amazon.org
> > 1stamazon.com
> > 1stamazon.net
> > 1stamazon.org
> > 24-7amazon.com
> > 24-7amazon.net
> > 24-7amazon.org
> > 411amazon.net
> > 411amazon.org
> > allamazon.net
> > allamazon.org
> > amazon123.com
> > amazon123.net
> > amazon123.org
> > amazon2001.net
> > amazon2001.org
> > amazon24-7.com
> > amazon24-7.net
> > amazon24-7.org
> > amazon411.com
> > amazon411.net
> > amazon411.org
> > amazon4ever.com
> > amazon4ever.net
> > amazon4ever.org
> > amazon4you.net
> > amazon4you.org
> > amazonandmore.com
> > amazonandmore.net
> > amazonandmore.org
> > amazonbiz.net
> > amazonbiz.org
> > amazoncenter.net
> > amazoncenter.org
> > amazoncentral.net
> > amazoncentral.org
> > amazonchat.net
> > amazonchat.org
> > amazoncity.org
> > amazonclub.net
> > amazonclub.org
> > amazoncompany.com
> > amazoncompany.net
> > amazoncompany.org
> > amazondirect.net
> > amazondirect.org
> > amazonforever.net
> > amazonforever.org
> > amazonhelp.com
> > amazonhelp.net
> > amazonhelp.org
> > amazoninc.net
> > amazoninc.org
> > amazonland.net
> > amazonland.org
> > amazonmania.com
> > amazonmania.net
> > amazonmania.org
> > amazonmegasite.com
> > amazonmegasite.net
> > amazonmegasite.org
> > amazonmusic.net
> > amazonmusic.org
> > amazonnews.net
> > amazonnews.org
> > amazononline.com
> > amazononline.org
> > amazonpages.com
> > amazonpages.net
> > amazonpages.org
> > amazonplace.com
> > amazonplace.net
> > amazonplace.org
> > amazonplanet.net
> > amazonplanet.org
> > amazonquest.net
> > amazonsale.net
> > amazonsale.org
> > amazonshop.com
> > amazonshop.org
> > amazonsite.com
> > amazonsite.org
> > amazonstore.org
> > amazonsupersite.com
> > amazonsupersite.net
> > amazonsupersite.org
> > amazontech.net
> > amazontech.org
> > amazontime.com
> > amazontime.net
> > amazontime.org
> > amazonuniverse.net
> > amazonuniverse.org
> > amazonway.net
> > amazonway.org
> > amazonworld.net
> > amazonworld.org
> > amazonzone.net
> > amazonzone.org
> > bestamazon.net
> > bestamazon.org
> > buyamazon.com
> > buyamazon.org
> > clubamazon.net
> > clubamazon.org
> > coolamazon.net
> > coolamazon.org
> > cyberamazon.net
> > cyberamazon.org
> > directamazon.com
> > directamazon.net
> > directamazon.org
> > easyamazon.com
> > easyamazon.net
> > easyamazon.org
> > firstamazon.com
> > firstamazon.net
> > firstamazon.org
> > go2amazon.net
> > go2amazon.org
> > goamazon.com
> > goamazon.net
> > goamazon.org
> > gotoamazon.net
> > gotoamazon.org
> > greatamazon.com
> > greatamazon.net
> > greatamazon.org
> > justamazon.net
> > justamazon.org
> > megaamazon.net
> > megaamazon.org
> > moreamazon.com
> > moreamazon.net
> > moreamazon.org
> > onlineamazon.com
> > onlineamazon.net
> > onlineamazon.org
> > virtualamazon.org
> > webamazon.net
> > webamazon.org
> >
> > Are the registrars, in effect, part of the problem? Please note that
> these
> > choices which arise from "string" variables can also lead to registrations
> > that may later become victim to "reverse domain name hijacking" as well.
> >
> > Perhaps one question we should ask is... what percentage of the UDRP cases
> > involved typosquatting and/or reverse domain name hijacking?
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