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Re: SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP AGAIN on DNSO GARe: [ga] GA Rules don't gofar enough
- To: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Subject: Re: SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP AGAIN on DNSO GARe: [ga] GA Rules don't gofar enough
- From: "!Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@pccf.net>
- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 02:26:39 -0500 (EST)
- cc: ga@dnso.org, Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>, Andrew Pincus <APincus@doc.gov>, Becky Burr <bburr@ntia.doc.gov>, commerce <commerce@mail.house.gov>, dnso abuse <ga-abuse@dnso.org>, DNSO Council <council@dnso.org>, DNSO Listadmin <DNSO.Listadmin@dnso.org>, DOMAIN-POLICY <DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET>, Elloit Maxwell <emaxwell@doc.gov>, Eric Menge <Eric.Menge@sba.gov>, Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>, George Conrades <gconrades@icann.org>, james tierney <james.tierney@usdoj.gov>, Jane Coffin <jcoffin@ntia.doc.gov>, "Joe (Virus Laden Web Page Expert) Sims" <Joe_Sims@jonesday.com>, Kay Bailey Hutchison <senator@hutchison.senate.gov>, "Louis L. Touton" <Louis_L._Touton@jonesday.com>, Mike Roberts <mmr@darwin.ptvy.ca.us>, "vinton g. cerf - ISOC" <vcerf@MCI.NET>, William Daley <wdaley@doc.gov>
- In-Reply-To: <38AA5C1C.3AD7D143@ix.netcom.com>
- Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
> Joe and all,
>
> Well Joe, Harald, Roberto, Kent and William (The Four Horse Shitters)
> have decided that CENSORSHIP, and false claims as well as list
> games are more preferable on this forum (DNSO GA), as such, the babble
> factor will be all there is soon enough or just false and misleading information.
> That is fine, but not very useful or helpful. But certainly misleading.
well - the GA is an exercise in deception by ICANN. I enjoy it - and
keeping them honest. Splitting the list is also entertaining - it's
caused a general drop in participation and a complete loss of credibility
as the masses evacuate the GA.
>
> As for verification of individuals, I am all for it, as long as everyone is
> publicly verified and that no private information is required for anyone.
> Again that is not what Harald seems to be suggesting is required, yet
> does not provide where and how to submit such documentation, nor
> how these privacy is to be protected or guaranteed. Hence you have a
> situation that is circular and not addressing what is necessary or desired,
> nor do you have a resolution just SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP, again!
My main concern is all the privacy violations involved in collecting
personal information. And the credibility of those incvolved in the
process - i speak of icann, the dnso and the nc - is not good. It has
been seriously soiled by the depoloyment of censorship, list splitting,
electoral fraud. Those who enjoy shaekspears follows would very much
enjoy the show. I do.
Regards
Joe Baptista
>
> !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
>
> > That's the problem with all this - it's all babble and the substance get's
> > lost in the drift. All we need is to verify membership, any half assed
> > political organization should be able to do it. But this is mission
> > imposible par excellance - nes pa?
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Joe K. , Joe and all,
> > >
> > > I think that membership dues is a great idea. For the DNSO and ICANN
> > > they need to be as high as possible to keep the "Little People" out, at least
> > > $5k per year minimum. Than Joe Kelsey and William will have to come
> > > up with some real $$ instead of babble...
> > >
> > > Hell, I belong to a country club that costs more than $5k/year! Chump
> > > change! And a high membership due cost would keep things more
> > > wholesome or should I say dot.wholesome! >;) Oh yes and Joe Kelsey,
> > > if $5k is a bit for you to come up with, I will give you a loan on for a lean
> > > on your house or something else of equivalent value. My interest rates
> > > are reasonable. >;)
> > >
> > > !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Joe Kelsey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All professional societies avoid the problemof identity simply by the
> > > > > fact that they charge for membership. If you have to pay for something,
> > > >
> > > > Not true - and very misleading. Many organizations do not charge for
> > > > membership - some do. This is also not a professional society - this is
> > > > the general assembly of the dnso of icann. Check the bylaws if your
> > > > confused. We are not a professional society nor should you mislead the
> > > > assembly with such speculation.
> > > >
> > > > The GA has become a bit of a club - that I give you - but a club is also
> > > > not a society, and in this case not very ICANN legal.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Joe Baptista
> > > >
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> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
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> > >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 972-447-1894
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
>
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