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Re: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot

To: mcnulty@AZStarnet.com
Subject: Re: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:18:01 -0800
CC: ga@dnso.org
Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
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Michael and all assembly members,

  The privacy Act IS US law.

Michael wrote:

> 'Privacy policies' are not required under U.S. law.
> Michael McNulty
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Jean-Michel and all,
> >
> >   The problem Jean-Michel here are many and varied when it comes to
> > the perpetration's that Harald, Roberto, the DNSO NC, and the DNSO
> > list admin. have done that is a matter of historical record (See DNSO GA
> > Archives for further in-depth details).  But this is only really part of
> > the problem to which you refer.  Privacy issues are very real and quite
> > concerning in general as well as in specific.  One of them is "Identity Teft"
> > which the FTC  see: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/02/idtheft.htm
> > for further details.  Other concerns as related to "Identity Theft" with
> > respect to the DNSO is the total lack of proper security on the DNSO.org
> > Web site as well as this mailing list.  It is an easy hack, as has been
> > demonstrated on several occasions.  Another, concern is the total lack
> > of a viable and lawful "Privacy Policy" as required by US law.  In that
> > the DNSO is part of ICANN and ICANN is a US non-profit corporation
> > without an official and approved or well recognized Privacy Policy, the
> > problem of "Identity Theft" becomes that much more acute.
> >
> > Jean-Michel Becar wrote:
> >
> > > Mr Baptista,
> > >
> > > As I'm a honest citizen I don't care to provide or to share any of my
> > > private information with any body. Why are you so reluctant? I always
> > > thought that only people having something to hide would hide their identity.
> > > But I do not think it's your case, so what's the problem?
> > >
> > > Jean-Michel Becar
> > > ETSI Project Manager
> > > www.etsi.org
> > > Tel: +33 4 92 94 43 15
> > > Fax: +33 4 92 38 52 15
> > > GSM: +33 6 82 80 19 31
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [mailto:baptista@pccf.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 11:22 AM
> > > To: Jean-Michel Becar
> > > Cc: 'Harald Tveit Alvestrand'; ga@dnso.org; list@ifwp.org
> > > Subject: RE: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
> > >
> > > not in the icann cards - nor do I expect icann for reasons of privacy to
> > > share any information with the ga nitwits.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Jean-Michel Becar wrote:
> > >
> > > > Harald,
> > > >
> > > > Yes of course, I wrote this Email earlier in the morning and I only though
> > > > afterwards I was writing something not enough open for our process. BTW I
> > > > like your idea to use the At Large membership system to subscribe to the
> > > ga.
> > > > Dear ga members could we go for a discussion on that.
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Michel Becar
> > > > E.T.S.I.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:Harald@Alvestrand.no]
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 8:26 AM
> > > > To: Jean-Michel Becar; Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law;
> > > > ga@dnso.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:44 28.02.00 +0000, Jean-Michel Becar wrote:
> > > > >Harald, Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > >But the way the At Large members is registered via this Web Interface
> > > could
> > > > >be an example for the GA membership.
> > > > >But the way the proof of identity is done (by sending a postal mail to
> > > the
> > > > >pysical address with a PIN code to be used for accessing to the web site)
> > > > >would cost too much for the GA.
> > > > >So why not to set up a web site where people can registrer themselves and
> > > > >for the proof of identity and interest in the GA DNSO, they should
> > > provide
> > > > a
> > > > >domain name that can be verified with a whois request if the domain name
> > > > >holder is the same as the member.
> > > >
> > > > and if they don't hold any domain names?
> > > > For those that do, it's possible - but we'll have to do something for the
> > > > rest. (And, of course, domain names can cost down to USD 10 these days)
> > > >
> > > > another idea I had - what if we considered an activated At Large
> > > membership
> > > > necessary and sufficient for voting rights in the GA?
> > > > This would have a couple of advantages:
> > > >
> > > > - ICANN has to do the verification work anyway, so it's only done once
> > > > - More active use of the ICANN membership code gives more chance that
> > > > weaknesses in the system will be found and corrected
> > > > - It's a drive (a small one) for At Large membership
> > > >
> > > > Of course, this leaves us without the power to impose or enforce our own
> > > > membership rules, requires people to be willing to sign up for At Large
> > > > membership, and requires that the people running the At Large are willing
> > > > to share at least some information.
> > > >
> > > > But it's an idea.
> > > >
> > > >                        Harald
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> > > > Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
> > > >
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> > Regards,
> >
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> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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References:
- RE: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
  - From: Jean-Michel Becar <Jean-Michel.Becar@etsi.fr>
- Re: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
  - From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Re: [ga] Proposal: WWW / slashdot
  - From: Michael <mcnulty@AZStarnet.com>

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