Re: [ga] [TLD History] RANDOM DRAFT 42-B - Delegation of International Top Level Domains (iTLDs)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Simon and all assembly members,

  I agree some people are opposed to consensus.  Consensus must be
measurable to adequately determine if it exists.  This requires a VOTE.
Something I feel some parties are adamantly opposed to as well.  Even
several ICANN Board members have publicly stated such....

Simon Higgs wrote:

> At 11:39 AM 3/30/00 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
>
> What was clearly missed from my posting is the following:
>
> "Hopefully, we can use what we can find consensus on, and move on."
>
> Or phrased another way:
>
> "Hopefully, we can use what we can find consensus on, and move on."
>
> Does this help, Kent?
>
> Roberto - Kent's response is another example of the answer to your question
> "Why?" It doesn't seem to matter, some people are adamantly opposed to
> finding consensus.
>
> >On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 10:01:12AM -0800, Simon Higgs wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.iiia.org/lists/newdom/1996q1/0482.html
> > >
> > > I would recommend EVERYONE on the GA mailing list take a look at this
> > > document from Jon Postel of IANA. This is the original "new TLD plan", and
> > > documents many things -
> >
> >It says:
> >
> >     The NEWDOM, IETF, and related mailing lists are encouraged to read,
> >     and comment, on this material.  Presuming a consensus can be found
> >     within these audiences, the distribution of this memorandum should
> >     be expanded to include general commentary from the Internet
> >     community.
> >
> >That is, it documents nothing but early thoughts on how things *might* be
> >done, and EXPLICITLY states that the result will need to be brought
> >before the "Internet community" before it can be ratified.
> >
> >At the bottom it says:
> >
> >     Postel Expires 30-Sep-96
> >
> >That date is long past.
> >
> >[...]
> > > There are also many trivia items in this document - the infamous check
> > > (6.4.4), timetable for introducing new TLDs (6.9.4), the original ad hoc
> > > committee (5.5), introducing new registries for iTLDs and additional iTLDs
> > > names (1.6), etc. So now when you hear someone say they followed the
> > > guidelines laid out by IANA, this is one of the documents they are
> > > referring to.
> >
> >Such people would be very foolish to follow guidelines that had never
> >been ratified.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> > > FYI - this is what Dave Crocker is referring to as the "rogue effort".
> >
> >If you mean people trying to spin gold out of an extremely rough,
> >unofficial, unratified draft, yes.
> >
> >If you mean the rough, unofficial, unratified draft itself, no.  The
> >draft itself is part of a very long and winding process -- a rejected
> >part.  For reference, here's a relevant section of the boilerplate of
> >all Internet Drafts:
> >
> >     Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six
> >     months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents
> >     at any time.  It is inappropriate to use Internet- Drafts as
> >     reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress."
> >
> >So, while Jon's draft is an interesting window into the history of all
> >this debate, it has no standing whatsoever as a basis for action on the
> >part of anyone.
> >
> >--
> >Kent Crispin                               "Do good, and you'll be
> >kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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