Re: [ga] New Sheriff in town

[Eric Dierker <Eric@hi-tek.com>]

Let us get it on and I ask you to join in an earlier post.



       The procedure set forth at http://www.bitshift.org/rror.shtml are good
       procedures which can be adopted.  Then they can be modified as problems
       arise.

       Based upon my broad based survey of all working group, committee, SO, GA
       list archives I found the most amount of argument time spent on two
       subjects.

       1. History: Basically how did something come about, what was intended
       and who was responsible.

       2. Definition: Entire threads get misdirected because the two sides
       cannot come up with an agreed upon meaning of what is being said.

       Neither of these two areas have produced positive results EVER!! Yet it
       is what the majority of time, like about 85% is spent on. A review of
       the last House Hearings and the ones underway lead to the same numbers
       and the same result.

       The other results are aggravation from the process leading to lack of
       participation.  An interesting phenomenon is that the bitterness which
       pervades so many discussions does not diminish the activity, but it does
       narrow the participation.

       My conclusion at this point is that before moving on and establishing
       set rules and procedures, as in agreed to histories and definitions,
       each group simply appoint marshals for both of these areas.  Elect your
       internal chair and they appoint their marshals.  Just like the old west,
       before the laws could be written down that would cover the situations,
       the elected mayors would simply hire marshals to keep the peace.
       Of course the marshal would just say ok gentlemen lets take this off
       list and we will agree on moving forward before getting back on list. No
       problem the dissenter gets to post one objection to the marshals
       position but then we move on.

       Sincerely,
       Wyatt Earp

Ok this is ridiculous?  I  think is better and Dassa and Joanna woul make great Marshals,
they are faster draws than any -post  I have seen.

Ultreya,


Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all remaining assembly members,
>
>   I agree with you here Eric.  Those that wish to bring the problems
> with the IDNO and a few of it's more vocal and disruptive and destructive
> voices, should keep their internal squabbling in their own house.  I believe
> that Joop has also called for this as have I.
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > This is way out of the arena of speaking in this GA, unless someone can bring it into
> > focus.  Some folks will go to any lengths to continue distructive threads. I think
> > mayber Sotiris you should ignore the babies.
> > Sotiropoulos wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff et al.,
> > >
> > > I would rather he didn't.  I don't want to offend
> > > anybody, but I think this is hardly the forum for
> > > such postings.  Perhaps, I am wrong?  But, I don't
> > > think I am...  I would very much prefer to leave
> > > what has relevance to the IDNO ML, to the IDNO
> > > ML.  After all, in *point of fact* I have not
> > > ANYWHERE seen, read, or heard anything that would
> > > lead me to believe that should an IDNH
> > > Constituency be added to the DNSO, that the IDNO
> > > is even a remote candidate for the position of
> > > such an appendage.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > >         Hermes Network, Inc.
> > >
> > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sotiris and all remaining assembly members,
> > > >
> > > >   An excellent question, Sotiris.  Possibly Andy Gardner can answer
> > > > you questions and share it with everyone here?   Andy, care to
> > > > answer Sotiris's excellent question?
> > > >
> > > > Sotiropoulos wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Andy Gardner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > At 6:00 pm +1300 2/10/01, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > > > > > >At 10:48 10/02/01 +1100, Dassa wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>Mistakes made on one forum and repeated elsewhere are relevant to all.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Possibly. There are a number of lessons to be learnt from the IDNO
> > > > > > >experiment in open democracy and I am certainly one who is learning them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Evidence suggests that you have not learnt a single thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >One is that constant personal abuse drives all serious participants off and
> > > > > > >leaves only those who, in the words of Alan McCluskey
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For an example of personal abuse within the IDNO (In fact, possibly the
> > > > > > very first incident), one only needs to read the following email sent by
> > > > > > Joop to selected members of the IDNO (included quotes snipped for brevity).
> > > > > > Note the date it was sent:
> > > > >
> > > > > What does this drivel have to do with the GA or ICANN?  If *nothing at all*,
> > > > > then WHY am I receiving this garbage through the GA ML?
> > > > >
> > > > > SS
> > > > > HN, Inc.
> > > > >
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> > > >
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