RE: [ga] Austerity measures

[Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales <vany@sdnp.org.pa>]

Hi Michael:

I am agree with you.  I cannot believe the figures shown by Elizabeth.
I also administrate Linux server with several services including mailing
lists and to me only takes 5 minutes to one mailing list and maybe two
hours per week for maintenance but not two hourse per day.  It is
exagerate.

Best Regards
Vany



On Mon, 14 May 2001, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:

> I'm sorry, but I simply cannot imagine how it can take this much time to
> maintain a list.  We have dozens here at the law school, and they don't
> take anything close to that amount of time.
>
> On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alexander Svensson wrote:
>
> >
> > Roberto Gaetano wrote on 14.05.01, 21:11:26:
> > > I would second Roeland's comment below:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>I share the incredulity... the answer is ... not much. Especially
> > >>considering that the ga-full is not moderated. It was the compromise that
> > >>enabled moderation on the GA list.
> > >
> > > I think that the NC should reconsider the matter, because closing down the
> > > GA-full will definitively destabilize the compromise achieved one year ago.
> > > The idea to restart from scratch the whole discussion about monitoring and
> > > censorship, right now that we seem to start making some progress, is
> > > frightening.
> >
> > I have listened to the Names Council teleconference
> > meeting (thanks, Bret!), and it turns out that,
> > according to the Secretariat, the setup time for
> > the five new GA sublists was about *twenty* hours of
> > secretariat work, the typical maintenance costs are about
> > *two* hours per day (Philip Sheppard referring to figures by
> > Elisabeth Porteneuve, DNSO Secretariat; unfortunately it
> > is very much at the end of the 14 MB audio file Bret Fausett
> > recorded).
> >   http://www.lextext.com/nc05092001.html
> >
> > If you listen to the NC discussion of the issue, you
> > will probably /not/ get the impression that this is a ploy
> > to silence the uncomfortable voices or something alike
> > [just to make sure: I'm obviously not addressing Roberto
> > here!]. Philip Sheppard: "As I understand, for reasons of
> > history, there are two main GA lists, one of which was
> > designed to be entirely open, the other one was moderated.
> > The one [list] that is moderated is the one that is used
> > by hundreds, and the one that's entirely open tends to
> > be used as a duplicate list and has a current subscription
> > of about ten; and I was wondering if it was not time, in
> > terms of being pragmatic, to suggest the closure of that
> > list in light of these new five, which would save a
> > little bit of administrative time." The other NC members
> > agreed.
> >
> > This said, I agree with Roberto that the GA-full list should
> > be continued nonetheless. I would assume that any tasks
> > connected with archiving and dealing with subscriptions
> > are much more time-consuming for all the other lists. The
> > GA-full has very few subscribers and, as Roberto mentions,
> > the fact that it is unmoderated should make the administration
> > even easier. There is little to be gained moneywise,
> > but there is a real risk of returning to an earlier point and
> > state of discussion which we had hoped to have gotten past.
> >
> > I ask Philip and the other NC members to reconsider this step,
> > especially as it is indeed the /moderation/ which requires
> > extra work:
> >   http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc05/msg00301.html
> >
> > Best regards,
> > /// Alexander
> >
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Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
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