Re: [ga] GA-REVIEW & Other Mailing Lists

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

I make no apologies for my excitability.  Over the last year I have grown to be quite
proud of Joanna.  She is one of the most productive and caring members of the Internet
community. What's my point??;

This is it!  For policy considerations regarding the Internet, This is it.  On this U.S.
fathers day we look to our fathers and our children and realize this is it.  Maybe the
Internet is not important, maybe it is. But this is it when it comes to open and
transparent decision making regarding said net. Excited-- Hell yes!  Simply being allowed
to participate is Exciting.  This may or may not be a Chat or Board room but it is the
only room where the world gets to watch in horror or gaiety at the process that truly
shapes the policy of the Internet. You got one place where Messrs.. Morphin, Lynn,
Flemming, Williams, Froomkin, Fausset, Mueller, Probst, Lovell, Lane, Gallegos,
Soritopolis, Cerf, and me and my beloved dot commoners thrash out the issues of the day,
of hour,or minute.

Excited and excitable hell yes, don't ever suggest that my Ho Chi Minh City shoeshine boy
or my Sudanese doctor are not worth getting excited about.  You walk on their rights to
access to knowledge and the world and I will be one screaming meemy on your back.

Happy day to all, and thank you for being here.
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Bill and all assembly members,
>
>   I would have to agree that there are a disproportionate number of
> "Excitable" participants on this forum.  However that is to be expected
> and understood as what we are all are witnessing is something of
> great interest to many.  And as such, many are seeing the terrible
> inequities and inconsistencies of the "ICANN Experiment" that
> are draining the life blood from the internet.  That is likely to be
> disturbing and create excitement....
>
> William S. Lovell wrote:
>
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > Both of you are right but in your brutality you are both wrong.  Joanna I am a
> > > proud US citizen yet my views on privacy make yours pale in comparison. You chose
> > > to make this an American versus UK issue you will lose.  Please do not smack my
> > > conutrymen in order to gain points.  You do not represent a position against me as
> > > I and every representative of my country is the US position.
> >
> > I "represent" this country (the U.S.), as you put it, but most certainly do not
> > subscribe to the market model of William X. Walsh, but on this point will
> > adopt the EU view. In very broad strokes, I see nothing wrong with Joanna's
> > generalization as to a "UK" and a "US" view, so long as it is understood ("as
> > any fool can plainly see," as the saying goes) that there are similarly no doubt
> > many UK (or EU) citizens that would favor the "US view."
> >
> > Point is, though, that this discussion has no point. No one is lobbing shots
> > across "the pond" here at all, but simply using a useable shorthand.
> >
> > (Very excitable people in this place, methinks!)
> >
> > Bill Lovell
> >
> > > I am not offended but
> > > I will be shortly!
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Patrick Greenwell wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Joanna Lane wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As a British citizen, I find myself advocating an EU position, pitted
> > > > > against the US position, represented by William Walsh. This has certainly
> > > > > increased my understanding about how US citizens have become conditioned to
> > > > > accept intrusion into their private lives, something that is not accepted so
> > > > > readily by the rest of the world.
> > > >
> > > > Joanne, with all due respect, I don't believe it is fair to generalize the
> > > > position of an entire country based on the opinions of one individual.
> > > >
> > > > Further, Britian has enacted some of the most intrusive legislation
> > > > related to the Internet that exists, the Regulation of Investigatory
> > > > Powers, which among other things gives British authorities the right
> > > > to intercept ALL Internet traffic as well as force individuals to turn
> > > > over encryption keys WITHOUT a warrant. I'd hardly call Britain a model of
> > > > privacy....
> > > >
> > > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> > > >                                Patrick Greenwell
> > > >                        Earth is a single point of failure.
> > > > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> > > >
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