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Re: [ga] Re: [announce] GA election to designate its representative to the NC Review TF
If you want to go on this matter, then ask who appointed the watchdog committee! Therein
lies the non-open and non-transparent and non-bottoms - up process. Let us see Danny is
out for the count, did the names council appoint? No it must of been the Monitors. No that
can't be right let us look at the rules - Was it the Secretariat? I think it was by
consensus but whos consensus.
You get the answer to this question and pin it down and the GA is on the road to recovery.
Sincerely
"William S. Lovell" wrote:
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > I certainly hope this ruffles some feathers while not hurting anyones feelings.
> >
> > I like the *WatchDog* committee. I like who is on it. I trust them to act just
> > exactly how we may predict them to act. When one of us dotcommoners is placed in the
> > proper position I want the world to know that they carried the heart to make it
> > through that gauntlet. I want them to be a BraveHeart. After we elected Danny I have
> > no fear, we will not elect a partyliner.*
> >
> > I am not saying that Dr. Lovell is wrong
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> > I simply say let them stack the deck we will
> > still win this battle.
>
> Oldest and smelliest trick in politics: accuse the other side of that
> which you yourself are doing. Again trying to keep Kent Crispin's
> role out of this, since he's not been heard from, it is fundamental to
> all law and to all democratic processes that a man cannot serve as
> judge of his own case, so no one can be a watchdog of an election
> in which that person is him/herself a candidate. I should think the
> ploy to be so transparent that even the halt and feeble would spot
> it in an instant, and the issue would warrant no further discussion:
> Mr. Crispin either refuses his nomination or is removed from the
> watchdog committee, and I'm assuming that having been put in
> that position is no doing of his own.
>
> (Proof again that the GA is an underdeveloped country, in which
> every unsophisticated, immature, juvenile, dirty trick will be tried
> out.)
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> >
> >
> > Danny has been gone for far longer than necessary to fix the problem he described.
> > Whoever takes this post will have the heck of it to survive but I want that person to
> > take our agenda and hurt themselves further to get it done.
> >
> > Best to all, -vote
> > Eric the worried
> >
> > "William S. Lovell" wrote:
> >
> > > And I agree. Clearly, one cannot oversee the fairness of an election or
> > > nomination process in which one has already been nominated. Without
> > > any reference to Kent Crispin himself, of course, the "fairness" of the
> > > nomination process could be manipulated so that those persons whom
> > > the nominee thought might be a "dangerous" candidates against that
> > > person's own ambitions could be "disqualified" for trumped-up reasons.
> > >
> > > (Unless, of course, the nominee's nomination was refused.)
> > >
> > > If the DNSO does not have a rule which removes candidates on
> > > anything from any watchdog role over the particular election in which
> > > the person is a candidate, it should be drafting one right now.
> > >
> > > Bill Lovell
> > >
> > > L Gallegos wrote:
> > >
> > > > IMO, that's a conflict.
> > > >
> > > > Leah
> > > >
> > > > On 25 Jun 2001, at 11:17, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 12:29 24/06/01 +0200, DNSO Secretariat wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Any instances of fraudulent nominations should be reported to this
> > > > > > committee at the following email address: ga-watchdog@dnso.org, with a
> > > > > > copy to the Names Council at council@dnso.org, This committee and the
> > > > > > Names Council shall have the sole discretion as to how to deal with any
> > > > > > such reported activity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Watchdog Committee list archive in
> > > > > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-watchdog/Arc00/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The members to the Watchdog Committee in 2001 election are:
> > > > > > o Roberto Gaetano
> > > > > > o Harald Alvestrand
> > > > > > o Kent Crispin
> > > > > > o Dany Vandromme
> > > > > > o Alexander Svensson
> > > > > > o Izumi Aizu
> > > > >
> > > > > But Kent Crispin has just been nominated as a candidate himself by Ken Stubbs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can he be a watchdog while being a candidate?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --Joop--
> > > > > Founder of the Cyberspace Association.
> > > > > Former bootstrap of the IDNO (www.idno.org)
> > > > > Developer of The Polling Booth
> > > > > www.democracy.org.nz
> > > > >
> > > > >
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