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Re: [ga] Re: [announce] GA election to designate its representative to the NC Review TF
Bill and all assembly members,
William S. Lovell wrote:
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > I certainly hope this ruffles some feathers while not hurting anyones feelings.
> >
> > I like the *WatchDog* committee. I like who is on it. I trust them to act just
> > exactly how we may predict them to act. When one of us dotcommoners is placed in the
> > proper position I want the world to know that they carried the heart to make it
> > through that gauntlet. I want them to be a BraveHeart. After we elected Danny I have
> > no fear, we will not elect a partyliner.*
> >
> > I am not saying that Dr. Lovell is wrong
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> > I simply say let them stack the deck we will
> > still win this battle.
>
> Oldest and smelliest trick in politics: accuse the other side of that
> which you yourself are doing. Again trying to keep Kent Crispin's
> role out of this, since he's not been heard from, it is fundamental to
> all law and to all democratic processes that a man cannot serve as
> judge of his own case, so no one can be a watchdog of an election
> in which that person is him/herself a candidate. I should think the
> ploy to be so transparent that even the halt and feeble would spot
> it in an instant, and the issue would warrant no further discussion:
> Mr. Crispin either refuses his nomination or is removed from the
> watchdog committee, and I'm assuming that having been put in
> that position is no doing of his own.
I agree with Bill here completely that being both a watch-dog however
sight impaired, and a candidate is inconsistent with any known democratic
process or due process. I also agree with Bill completely that Kent
is likely not a culprit here. However he could have by now refused
the nomination or stepped down from the Watch-dog position. In that
Ken Stubbs (NC member and long time friend and compatriot of Kents
that there may be some other intent in mind here.... I will leave all of you
assembly members to put on your political thinking caps to decide
for yourselves what that intent might be...
>
>
> (Proof again that the GA is an underdeveloped country, in which
> every unsophisticated, immature, juvenile, dirty trick will be tried
> out.)
We do seem to be saddled with a large number of immature and juvenile
members that are particularly enamored with amateurish political
"Dirty Tricks"....
>
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> >
> >
> > Danny has been gone for far longer than necessary to fix the problem he described.
> > Whoever takes this post will have the heck of it to survive but I want that person to
> > take our agenda and hurt themselves further to get it done.
> >
> > Best to all, -vote
> > Eric the worried
> >
> > "William S. Lovell" wrote:
> >
> > > And I agree. Clearly, one cannot oversee the fairness of an election or
> > > nomination process in which one has already been nominated. Without
> > > any reference to Kent Crispin himself, of course, the "fairness" of the
> > > nomination process could be manipulated so that those persons whom
> > > the nominee thought might be a "dangerous" candidates against that
> > > person's own ambitions could be "disqualified" for trumped-up reasons.
> > >
> > > (Unless, of course, the nominee's nomination was refused.)
> > >
> > > If the DNSO does not have a rule which removes candidates on
> > > anything from any watchdog role over the particular election in which
> > > the person is a candidate, it should be drafting one right now.
> > >
> > > Bill Lovell
> > >
> > > L Gallegos wrote:
> > >
> > > > IMO, that's a conflict.
> > > >
> > > > Leah
> > > >
> > > > On 25 Jun 2001, at 11:17, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 12:29 24/06/01 +0200, DNSO Secretariat wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Any instances of fraudulent nominations should be reported to this
> > > > > > committee at the following email address: ga-watchdog@dnso.org, with a
> > > > > > copy to the Names Council at council@dnso.org, This committee and the
> > > > > > Names Council shall have the sole discretion as to how to deal with any
> > > > > > such reported activity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Watchdog Committee list archive in
> > > > > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-watchdog/Arc00/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The members to the Watchdog Committee in 2001 election are:
> > > > > > o Roberto Gaetano
> > > > > > o Harald Alvestrand
> > > > > > o Kent Crispin
> > > > > > o Dany Vandromme
> > > > > > o Alexander Svensson
> > > > > > o Izumi Aizu
> > > > >
> > > > > But Kent Crispin has just been nominated as a candidate himself by Ken Stubbs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can he be a watchdog while being a candidate?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --Joop--
> > > > > Founder of the Cyberspace Association.
> > > > > Former bootstrap of the IDNO (www.idno.org)
> > > > > Developer of The Polling Booth
> > > > > www.democracy.org.nz
> > > > >
> > > > >
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