Re: [ga] FW: ICANN meeting in Montevideo

["L Gallegos" <jandl@jandl.com>]

The "should" is ICANN.  Any internal structure organization within 
ICANN should be funded by ICANN.  If not, then ICANN should 
separate the SOs from itself and recognize self-formed 
organizations that represent segments of the internet community 
world wide.  Of course, doing that would open the doors for the 
greater community to influence policy at ICANN for the greater 
good - a frightening concept for the power brokers.

I think the point is that the structure needs change, but in the 
meantime, ICANN has seen to it that only certain segments have a 
voice in policy making and those the ones who have the money - 
IP interests and major corporations.  DN holders, Noncoms and 
users are the poor relations and ignored.

"Pay to play" is no better than the feudal system of the middle 
ages.  ICANN supports a club of the monied special interests and 
will continue to do so if allowed.  However, it will take more then 
rhetoric on the GA list to effect any change.

The problem, as I see it, with the GA is that it is not in a position 
to have any influence on ICANN policy without DNSO restructuring. 
 Until then, who or what entity or entities will fund it?  It's a catch-
22.  

Meanwhile, the game goes on.  There are those in the GA who are 
working diligently to effect change and are being fought at every 
turn by those who want to see the status quo and disenfranchise 
all but those power brokers.  Nothing changes.

Jeff is right on the one hand.  To get anything done, find a way to 
fund the GA and rally behind it.  But at the same time, find a way 
to restructure to give it a place where its voice counts and perform 
serious outreach to increase the volume of its voice.

Leah

On 25 Aug 2001, at 3:20, Jeff Williams wrote:

> Joanna and all assembly members,
> 
> Joanna Lane wrote:
> 
> > on 8/24/01 9:35 PM, Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales at vany@sdnp.org.pa
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jefsey:
> > >
> > > Let  me tell you that SOs are an structures within ICANN, not
> > > contractors of ICANN. None SO is independent neither external from
> > > ICANN.
> > >
> > > Contractors are external entities.  The SOs are part of the
> > > internal structure of ICANN.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Vany
> >
> > Hello Vany,
> >
> > If DNSO is internal to ICANN, then it is ICANN's responsibility to
> > fund it, and no SO should be expected to fund itself externally.
> > Isn't that Jefsey's point?
> 
>   Yes I believe this was PART of Jefsey's point.  Indeed the DNSO is
> part of ICANN. In fact it is an SO.  But the GA is the "Assembly" of
> the DNSO. It should fund itself if the ICANN BoD and staff is not
> going to, which it looks like it isn't going to do....
> 
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joanna
> >
> > The URLs for Best Practices: DNSO Citation:
> > http://www.dnso.org/dnso/gaindex.html
> > (Under "Other Information Documents"; "August 2001:
> > Proposal for Best Practices for the DNSO GA")
> > Part I:
> > http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010813.GA-BestPractices.html
> > Part II:
> > http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20010813.GA-BP-flowchart.pdf
> > (Access to the .pdf file requires installing the Adobe Acrobat
> > Reader, which is available for free down load at
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html.)
> >
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> 
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