Re: [ga] Registrars Draft: Transfers

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all assembly members,

Joanna Lane wrote:

> on 9/26/01 8:25 PM, Jeff Williams at jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> >> I maintain that it is not the Registrar's job to police the Registrant
> >> community on behalf of the judicial system and that they are not able to do
> >> so anyway.
> >
> > Again I disagree here as well.  If self regulation it to be successful and
> > in any way meaningful under ICANN, the registrar must do most of the
> > policing while at the same time not infringing on the privacy of any
> > registrant.  Indeed this can become a difficult task, but one if self
> > regulation is to work must be in part the responsibility of the Registrar.
>
> Self regulation has not proved to be successful with this industry. ICANN
> has demonstrated it is incompetent with respect to both accountability to
> the public it purports to serve and enforcement of the agreements it makes.
> The self-regulation argument is a refuge to protect the implementation of
> policies that seek to promote corrupt elements of an illegitimate
> organization.

  Ahhh!  Well done.  Glad you picked up on what I was trying to convey.
Indeed without proper oversight from the US Govt. by way of the
DOC/NTIA, the contracts, white paper and MoU that the than Interim
ICANN self selected BoD ICANN has shown that it is not capable
of complete self regulation yet.  Maybe some day, but not yet....

>
> >
> >> If what you say is true, and I have no reason to believe it is
> >> not, then the present clause is also onerous on the Losing Registrar, in
> >> that the Losing Registrar may be acting negligently if they do not undertake
> >> bankrupcy investigations and yet they have no way to comply with that
> >> requirement.
> >
> > Agreed that presently Registrars for the most part are ill equipped to
> > do bankruptcy investigations.  However with a little effort they certainly
> > can do so.
> >
> OK Jeff, let's see if there is any truth in your statement. Exactly what
> procedures should be undertaken to investigate a Registrant, (whether an
> individual or company), operating outside the USA? Please list the relevant
> sources for all countries worldwide, and the cost implications of such
> investigations.

  Outside the US in investigating, if necessary is not really feasible, nor
am I saying that it is.  But indeed it can be done, and is done on a fairly
regular basis.  I cannot and would not list sources for all countries worldwide,
or even in the US.  Such a list of sources would exceed the limit of my
E-Mailer as well as the 10k limit for this forum.  Developing sources
such as http://ussearch.com/ for instance would also very so much through
various well known and respected private investigative services, that
it would be a silly and unethical practice for me to reveal any of our sources
on this forum or any similar forum for use by registrars that have little
expertise in using such services for the information regarding bankruptcy's.

>
>
> Regards,
> Joanna

Regards,
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