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Re[2]: [ga] Registrar Constituency WLS Response to Verisign - A DNSO GA Ballot please...
I'm with Abel, Jeff. We all have an opinion, and some elbow grease
says a lot, too. You draft it and Able (I assume) and I will help.
Saturday, March 16, 2002, 6:32:15 PM, Abel Wisman <abel@able-towers.com> wrote:
AW> It must be getting late in your side of the world, otherwise you would
AW> no doubt make more sense, nonetheless:
AW> WLS : GA POV is related and posted, no objections, loads of support,
AW> including yours, see www.it-ken.net nd i do miss your group's comments
AW> not the Verisign page, not that such means much, the registrars
AW> Constituency is not added either, but still.
AW> .Org : THAT is the one we were talking about, you said we needed to
AW> something about that, (WLS being over and done with for now) and i said
AW> that i agreed, seeing as Don and I did most of the work on the WLS, I
AW> thought it would honour you to do the draft on the org divestiture.
AW> I will gladly post it along side the WLS reaction
AW> abel
AW> On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 02:20, Jeff Williams wrote:
>> Abel and all assembly members,
>>
>> Abel Wisman wrote:
>>
>> > I agree wholeheartedly Jeff, so i assume you are writing a proposal for
>> > the GA to comment upon ?
>>
>> Our position's form our members have been posted to the
>> related E-Mail addresses for the WLS and .ORG divestiture.
>> So I guess first I must ask you here openly Abel, which
>> one are you referring to, the .ORG divestiture or the WLS
>> proposal? Second question I must ask to understand
>> the meaning of your question is, which proposal for
>> WLS are you referring to, yours, or Verisigns?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > abel
>> >
>> > On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 02:03, Jeff Williams wrote:
>> > > Geroge and all assembly members,
>> > >
>> > > George Kirikos wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > > > > It would seem to me that the DNSO GA should also have held
>> > > > > a vote on the WLS and the .ORG delegation statement. I had requested
>> > > > > these two things before, and received not reply from either Thomas,
>> > > > > or Alexander. I think Alex had mentioned that the DNSO GA
>> > > > > would be submitting a ballot on the WLS issue. Alex? If not,
>> > > > > than again I would like to request again such a ballot be
>> > > > > initiated.
>> > > >
>> > > > There were already multiple opportunities for folks to show their
>> > > > approval or disapproval of WLS (I don't follow the .org issue much).
>> > > > Each time, overwhelmingly the GA was against it. I'm not sure what
>> > > > another vote would prove.
>> > >
>> > > Well George it would PROVE that first the DNSO GA members
>> > > can show their interest and position in a official way to the WLS and
>> > > .ORG divestiture proposal. Second, without an official vote on these
>> > > matters, the ICANN BoD can claim that the DNSO GA is a nearly
>> > > useless part of the DNSO which they are already trying to do now,
>> > > and anyone can latter claim that the DNSO GA members had no
>> > > official position on the WLS or the .ORG divestiture issues...
>> > >
>> > > > It might be a step in the reverse direction,
>> > > > too, in that a "200-20" vote is just numerical, whereas having folks
>> > > > provide their name along with their position, as has happened in the
>> > > > mailing list, is more forceful. Anonymous voting in the age of the
>> > > > internet would be very difficult (one side could easily sign up a few
>> > > > hundred or thousand "supporters" to manipulate a vote where the voters
>> > > > are anonymous). The way the RC did it, with registrars voting in
>> > > > public, is best, as it's less open to manipulation (similar to how
>> > > > voice votes were held in ancient Greece).
>> > > >
>> > > > WLS was mentioned on Slashdot, too, where it was derided.
>> > > >
>> > > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/14/0649205&mode=thread
>> > > >
>> > > > It's unclear that Verisign respects democratic institutions, in any
>> > > > event. At some point (maybe we're well past that already), we might
>> > > > need a "Magna Carta" to limit the power of this monarchy.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sincerely,
>> > > >
>> > > > George Kirikos
>> > > > http://www.kirikos.com/
>> > > >
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>> > > Regards,
>> > > --
>> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
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