Re: [ga] Reseller hiding WHOIS info

[eric@hi-tek.com]

Dear Jon,

This little piece fits in with my earlier regarding notification from Versign
regarding more info for a dotUS registration.

It just shows a general pattern of really schlocky lousy business practice.  What
the hell ever happened to alpha and beta testing and making things click and run at
a billion per second before letting them lose on the public.

We are just about ready to transfer primary users of the net over to inclusive
roots - if we even need them. Because these guys are truly toy companies dealing
with a toy monopoly on a toy system where they do not have to worry about doing
something right the first time.

Get real and recognize that these guys suck raw eggs and bite the heads of
chickens.
Enforcement?  ICANN cannot enforce its' own bylaws upon itself.  They lie and they
cheat, and spend millions of dollars on lawyers to get away with it.  Your previous
position sounds like????? I hope you at least got tips.

Sincerely,
Eric

Jon Lawrence wrote:

> ICANN have been attempting to enforce the clause in the RAA that requires
> registrants to be given a copy of the registration agreement from the registrar
> of record for some time.
>
> In my previous position I personally received communications from ICANN
> regarding resellers that were not in compliance with these requirements,
> requested that we rectify the situation (which of course we did).
>
> I presume that ICANN does not have the resources required to effectively
> enforce this requirement however they certainly appear to have the inclination
> to do so...
>
> rgds
> jon
>
> >-- Original Message --
> >Reply-To: <dassa@dhs.org>
> >From: "Dassa" <dassa@dhs.org>
> >To: <ga@dnso.org>
> >Subject: RE: [ga] Reseller hiding WHOIS info
> >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:06:56 +1000
> >
> >
> >|> -----Original Message-----
> >|> From: owner-ga-full@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-full@dnso.org]
> >|> On Behalf Of DannyYounger@cs.com
> >|> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:41 AM
> >|> To: ga@dnso.org
> >|> Subject: Re: [ga] Reseller hiding WHOIS info
> >|>
> ><snip>
> >|> In its recommendations that are being prepared to be submitted to the
> >House
> >|> Judiciary's subcommittee on Courts, the Internet and Intellectual
> >Property,
> >|> the following are included:
> >|>
> >|> 8.  Give ICANN a litigation budget for contract enforcement
> >|> 9.  Insert teeth into ICANN's agreements
> >|>
> >|> I am not alone in seeking enforcement mechanisms (as this industry
> >report
> >|> well notes) and my comments on "sanctions" should not be interpreted
> >by you
> >|> as indicative of an anti-registrar crusade.  Of what value are
> >contracts if
> >|> we lack the means to provide enforcement?
> >|>
> >|> The State of the Domain report is available at
> >|> http://www.sotd.info/sotd/Content/Documents/sotdQ102.pdf
> >|> --
> >
> >
> >Might be a bit soon for ICANN to try and put muscle behind the
> >contracts.  They are still attempting to get contracts signed and there
> >is some resistance to moving into a contract with a body that only had
> >tenacious agreement to start with, from what I see.
> >
> >Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.
> >
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