[ga] Re: Proposed language changes to the MAILING LIST PAGE...

[DNSO Secretariat <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>]

On 23 May, todd glassey wrote :
> DNSO Secretariat
> 
> Your response is garbage. Voting is a specific privilege that is granted to
> the open GA membership, if they register because if you were not a GA member
> then how would you know what to vote on and what the issues are???
>>Voting is a specific privilege that is granted to every citizen who acts to get 
a voting card. You can follow informations on the GA archives to avoid 
being flooded by thousands of email for example.
You can also wish to be informed of the GA discussion without wanting to vote,
and thus don't want to appear in a blank vote, or abstain vote result.

> Your problem is that because you do not tell people that they cannot vote
> "until they register separately from their GA mailing-list registration",
> and there is an issue here because of this since it prohibits active
>>>This has already been changed now to take your interesting point into consideration.
The ga registration message has been changed to better inform the registrant of this matter.


> participation in the management process of DNSO. Further because there is no
> set of terms and conditions for how voting is carried out on any page that I
> saw, there is a further problem with the voting process.
>>> Rules for voting process have been recently revised and can be found under 
ga administration documents from the homepage.

> As to what and how to vote the vote will be carried out,  the website is
> clear on that ***IF*** you can find the link, but it is not clear from the
> Mailing List Page that being able to vote is a separate qualification, nor
> is there any link from the Mailing List Page to the Voting Registration
> Page... which  would seem on the surface  to be an effort to increase the
> mailing list population without allowing them into the voting fold...
>>As already said the mailing list page is not there for the dear ga members only.
It is an entry place towards archive of mailing list, and general usage of the mailing lists.
Voting is note the only aim of a mailing list user. If you put everything on a front page 
you don't read anything at the end. Furthermore now we have enhanced the registration message 
for a ga subscriber, we don't see the need to mix up things on this page.
To conclude on the surface, we don't see any personnal interest in raising the ga mailing list population
which is already kind of overcrowded. 

> 
> either way its messy.
> 
> Todd Glassey
DNSO Sec.

> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DNSO Secretariat" <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
> To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Proposed language changes to the MAILING LIST PAGE...
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> 'Mailing list' and 'vote' are two different concepts. We don't see the use
> in insisting on the GA voting process in a rubric which is dedicated to
> global mailing list use (remember other people than ga ones are using this
> pages daily.)
> Vote is a volunteer act, and in every country when you wanna vote you go to
> the dedicated office and register yourself in the voting registry. This is
> exactly the same here. When you want to be a ga voter you go in the rubric
> of the GA called GA voting registry. As soon as you have clicked there you
> have a description of what to do to become a registrant. This seems pretty
> clear like that. We will anyway try to make it clearer in the near future.
> Regards,
> 
> DNSO sec.
> 
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> On 22 May, todd glassey wrote :
> > Proposed MAIL LIST webpage content... Note the highlighted second bullet
> under the GA List block in the lower window.
> >
> > Todd
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> >       Mailing lists
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> >         a.. April 2001: No Cross Posting rules implementation on the DNSO
> http://www.dnso.org/secretariat/2001.SECno-cross-posting-rules.html
> >         b.. May 2001: Procedures for handling bounced e-mail messages
> http://www.dnso.org/secretariat/2001.SECbounces-handling.html
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> >         b.. Anyone wishing to also vote as a member of the GA must
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> See the Voter Registration URL at
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> >         f.. Currently, there is a self-imposed limit of FIVE postings per
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