Re: [ga] Re: Proposed language changes to the MAILING LIST PAGE...

["Roberto Gaetano" <ploki_xyz@hotmail.com>]

My two cents.
While the process can always be improved, and the clarity of the message 
(email or website) can always be enhanced, I would like to point out that 
the rules might have not been so obscure (and therefore the work of the 
Secretariat might not have been so garbageous) if only one person, AFAIK, 
has contributed to the GA list but at the moment of the vote was unable to 
figure out that registration was needed prior to the vote.
The reverse is true, instead: this one single case is largely offset by the 
far more who found the way to register and vote even if they might not have 
read one single message from the GA list.
Regards
Roberto
(last post of the day)


>From: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
>To: "DNSO Secretariat" <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>,        "ga@DNSO.org" 
><ga@dnso.org>
>CC: "DNSO Secretariat" <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>
>Subject: [ga] Re: Proposed language changes to the MAILING LIST PAGE...
>Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 07:44:35 -0700
>
>DNSO Secretariat
>
>Your response is garbage. Voting is a specific privilege that is granted to
>the open GA membership, if they register because if you were not a GA 
>member
>then how would you know what to vote on and what the issues are???
>
>Your problem is that because you do not tell people that they cannot vote
>"until they register separately from their GA mailing-list registration",
>and there is an issue here because of this since it prohibits active
>participation in the management process of DNSO. Further because there is 
>no
>set of terms and conditions for how voting is carried out on any page that 
>I
>saw, there is a further problem with the voting process.
>
>As to what and how to vote the vote will be carried out,  the website is
>clear on that ***IF*** you can find the link, but it is not clear from the
>Mailing List Page that being able to vote is a separate qualification, nor
>is there any link from the Mailing List Page to the Voting Registration
>Page... which  would seem on the surface  to be an effort to increase the
>mailing list population without allowing them into the voting fold...
>
>either way its messy.
>
>Todd Glassey
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DNSO Secretariat" <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
>To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
>Cc: <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:44 AM
>Subject: Re: Proposed language changes to the MAILING LIST PAGE...
>
>
>'Mailing list' and 'vote' are two different concepts. We don't see the use
>in insisting on the GA voting process in a rubric which is dedicated to
>global mailing list use (remember other people than ga ones are using this
>pages daily.)
>Vote is a volunteer act, and in every country when you wanna vote you go to
>the dedicated office and register yourself in the voting registry. This is
>exactly the same here. When you want to be a ga voter you go in the rubric
>of the GA called GA voting registry. As soon as you have clicked there you
>have a description of what to do to become a registrant. This seems pretty
>clear like that. We will anyway try to make it clearer in the near future.
>Regards,
>
>DNSO sec.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 22 May, todd glassey wrote :
> > Proposed MAIL LIST webpage content... Note the highlighted second bullet
>under the GA List block in the lower window.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
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> >         f.. Currently, there is a self-imposed limit of FIVE postings 
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