Re: [ga] Re: Redelegation issues

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Asadd and all assembly members,

Asaad Y. Alnajjar - Millennium Inc. wrote:

> Eric, now which ccTLD you said you represnt or in charge of?

  I am not sure mine you, but I think it is .VN.  However, I don't
believe, and I may also be mistaken here, that eric said that HE was
in charge of any ccTLD, but that an organization her represents
in the "Manager" of .VN.  The distinction is specifically significant,
BTW...

>
>
> John, if we go by your treasury argument, then at least the leading 25 .com
> registrars are already in violation of the law by selling thousands of names to
> citizens of Iraq & Libya. Do a whois query and you will find out for yourself.
>
> Jeff, can you please be more specific to the laws that ICANN staff broke as you
> do mention in your email!

  I was referencing John's comments and other comments and stated laws
that have been pointed out on this forum some time ago, Assad.  You
can look those laws and posts up for yourself, as I have already done so
and don't feel the need to do so again here as it has been done
so many times in the past to do so again would overly redundant
in the extreme...

>
>
> In my personal opinion, the role and interaction of ICANN is no different than
> that of communications companies providing long distance services to the
> countries you mention here, isn't it?

 Depends on the jurisdiction of the the communications companies that
are providing the long distance services you are referring to, Assad...

>

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Asaad Alnajjar
> CEO Millennium Inc  ( Los Angeles, CA, USA )
> AINC Executive Director
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <eric@hi-tek.com>
> To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: "John Berryhill" <john@johnberryhill.com>; "Elisabeth Porteneuve"
> <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>; <DannyYounger@cs.com>; <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Redelegation issues
>
> > Let me make sure that my take is very clear on the issue of ccTLDs.
> >
> > ICANN keep you infested hands off and let the sovereigns run their own show.
> >
> > You have no business interfering with sovereigns and need to stay the hell
> out.
> >
> > Sell a connectivity service and shut up.
> >
> > Is that clear enough?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > John and all assembly members,
> > >
> > > John Berryhill wrote:
> > >
> > > > > stability of the Internet, responsibility and service to the
> > > > > Internet users.
> > > >
> > > > >From the viewpoint of a U.S. corporation, i.e. ICANN, an over-riding
> > > > consideration is obedience to the law.  We have, for example, an economic
> > > > embargo of Libya (.ly)in effect in the United States. We also have
> embargoes
> > > > against Myanmar (.mm), Iran (.ir), North Korea (.kp not delegated), and
> Cuba
> > > > (.cu), among others.
> > > >
> > > > Quite frankly, if ICANN staff are negotiating ccTLD contracts with these
> > > > countries, then they had better get a license from the U.S. Treasury, or
> > > > they should be arrested and imprisoned.
> > >
> > >   I agree with you here John.  The problem is that presently the ICANN
> > > staff has already broke several other laws as you well know.  As such,
> > > they seem to be in the mode or of the opinion as to be above US
> > > law.  Hence I doubt that the ICANN staff is at all concerned if they
> > > are negotiating with any of the above listed ccTLD managers...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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