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Re: [ga] Re: Redelegation issues
Dear Asaad,
Let me answer your questions/propositions with an example.
dotVN.com is not a matter of a simple long distance anonymous carrier. It is an
attempt to use a ccTLD mark to brand a country and make it more recognizable.
www.it.com.vn is more than a web site or use of a ccTLD, it is an attempt to use
the ccTLD as part of a campaign to bring commercial IT interests into the great
nation of Viet Nam. www.business.com.vn is designed to be a business portal that
will bring commercial business interests into the great nation of Viet Nam. We at
Hi-Tek are developing business plans to use the ccTLD to market the country.
seetijuana.com is a beginning portal that will soon be changed into a dotMX which
will be developed along the lines of tourism marketing with or without affiliation
with the countries' nic, to promote that great nation where we also have an office.
In this case we are working with departments of tourism.
When we market and participate with a ccTLD our first goal is maintaining the
cultural and national security of that particular country. We treat the ccTLD as a
national resource and give it the respect that attaches to that country. In our
opinion that ccTLD is a communication resource unique and properly identified with
the people of the country and should be exploited to the benefit of the people of
the country. The ccTLD exploitation must be recycled back into the country to
provide online education to the children of Chiapas and provide farming and medical
connectivity to my Mekong Delta rural inhabitants.
So no Asaad we do not help a country run its' ccTLD like a long distance carrier.
We help them run it like a public trust with the main shareholders/stakeholders
being the children, shoeshine boys and flower girls working for a better life
within that geographic designation. We do not buy into the "local internet
community" we promote and actively look outside that electronic divide and seek to
be inclusive of non-users and how we can benefit others. The child whose paramedic
uses the internet to learn how to cure a deadly infection is not part of that LIC,
but by God we are working to make sure the connectivity is there to find the cure
by interfacing with such great MD/Phds like my father.
A properly run ccTLD like that of Viet Nam develops with and for the country and
its' people. It does not go dotTV or dotWS it goes like dotVN and is developed for
the good of the people. The development is carefully and craft fully undertaken to
exploit a resource for the reduction of illness and poverty and ignorance. While
the "news" may carry other stories the majority of ccTLDs are operated with a great
care to take care and do the right thing. Education is Marketing and Marketing is
Education, we must run ccTLDs from the inside to the inside, the inside to the
outside and the outside to the inside. The only borders are ones we create for
ourselves.
I am sorry for what has happened to dotCOM and ICANN but I will never rest but to
fight that it does not happen to the ccTLDs with which I am associated.
Sincerely,
Eric
"Asaad Y. Alnajjar - Millennium Inc." wrote:
> Eric, now which ccTLD you said you represnt or in charge of?
>
> John, if we go by your treasury argument, then at least the leading 25 .com
> registrars are already in violation of the law by selling thousands of names to
> citizens of Iraq & Libya. Do a whois query and you will find out for yourself.
>
> Jeff, can you please be more specific to the laws that ICANN staff broke as you
> do mention in your email!
>
> In my personal opinion, the role and interaction of ICANN is no different than
> that of communications companies providing long distance services to the
> countries you mention here, isn't it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Asaad Alnajjar
> CEO Millennium Inc ( Los Angeles, CA, USA )
> AINC Executive Director
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <eric@hi-tek.com>
> To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: "John Berryhill" <john@johnberryhill.com>; "Elisabeth Porteneuve"
> <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>; <DannyYounger@cs.com>; <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Redelegation issues
>
> > Let me make sure that my take is very clear on the issue of ccTLDs.
> >
> > ICANN keep you infested hands off and let the sovereigns run their own show.
> >
> > You have no business interfering with sovereigns and need to stay the hell
> out.
> >
> > Sell a connectivity service and shut up.
> >
> > Is that clear enough?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > John and all assembly members,
> > >
> > > John Berryhill wrote:
> > >
> > > > > stability of the Internet, responsibility and service to the
> > > > > Internet users.
> > > >
> > > > >From the viewpoint of a U.S. corporation, i.e. ICANN, an over-riding
> > > > consideration is obedience to the law. We have, for example, an economic
> > > > embargo of Libya (.ly)in effect in the United States. We also have
> embargoes
> > > > against Myanmar (.mm), Iran (.ir), North Korea (.kp not delegated), and
> Cuba
> > > > (.cu), among others.
> > > >
> > > > Quite frankly, if ICANN staff are negotiating ccTLD contracts with these
> > > > countries, then they had better get a license from the U.S. Treasury, or
> > > > they should be arrested and imprisoned.
> > >
> > > I agree with you here John. The problem is that presently the ICANN
> > > staff has already broke several other laws as you well know. As such,
> > > they seem to be in the mode or of the opinion as to be above US
> > > law. Hence I doubt that the ICANN staff is at all concerned if they
> > > are negotiating with any of the above listed ccTLD managers...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > --
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> > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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