Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ken and all assembly members,

  Ken, I think you mean problem, not "propblem"..  In any event, several

practical solutions have already been offered here on the DNSO GA
forum on a number of occasions.  Hence, perhaps you should
pay a little closer attention to the GA members, instead of spinning
with what Leah nicely pointed out below...

  So in that vain, thank you in advance for your cooperation, Ken...

Ken Stubbs wrote:

>    maybe instead of just talking about the issues , someone should
> suggest a practical solution to the potential propblem being discussed
> here..
>
> ken stubbs
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: L. Gallegos
>   To: ga@dnso.org
>   Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption
>
>
>   My point is that the registrant has to use the email address to
> contact
>   the system in order to verify the transaction (email verification).
> Many
>   registrants use their domain for email and some even just for email,
> so
>   that they do not have to continually change email addresses if they
>   change ISPs, etc.  So, going to a neighbor to use his email addy is
> not
>   going to do anything.  It won't compute.  That has been one of the
>   bugaboos when people do change email addresses due to ISP
>   changes, especially when it is due to an ISP failure or other
> emergency
>   change.  Suddenly one can't do anything about modifying domain
>   information and it all has to be done by phone.  With Verisign it is
>
>   extremely painful to do anything via phone or fax.  Other registrars
> do
>   not even make their phone numbers public - or at least easy to find.
>
>   It is an issue whether some feel otherwise or not.
>
>   The telephone or electric bill analogy is not a good one, IMO, since
>
>   most people would be able to deal with that simply - by using
> another
>   phone.  Verification of an email address is not necessary, nor is
>   verification of the number from which you are calling.
>
>   Leah
>
>
>   On 28 Jun 2002, at 13:54, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>
>   > I have to agree. If your phone gets disconnected, it doesnt matter
> if
>   > its because you 'thought you had paid' but hadnt or if its turly
> telco
>   > error or lost cheque.  You still have to go visit a neighbour, or
> use a
>   > cell phone or trundle down to find a pay phone just to establish
> what
>   > the problem is and see if you have to do something (like pay).
> It's your
>   > repsonisibility to find a way to do this.
>   >
>   > William X Walsh wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Friday, June 28, 2002, 1:31:08 AM, L. Gallegos wrote:
>   > >
>   > > > Well, the board approved it, but I still have a question that
> no one
>   > > > seems to have addressed.
>   > >
>   > > > If an expired domain is placed on registry hold and no longer
> resolves,
>   > > > and the contact email is based on that domain, how will the
> registrant
>   > > > be able to "undelete" it or move it to another registrar to
> redeem it if
>   > > > there can be no contact?
>   > >
>   > > > It seems to me that there should be some resolution to this
> question or
>   > > > what good is the Grace and Redemption perioid?  The only other
> means
>   > > > to communicate in this scenario, would be by telephone.  Some
> of the
>   > > > registrars do not even list their phone numbers on their
> websites and
>   > > > there would be little time to handle it via snail mail.
>   > >
>   > > > Anyone have any comments?
>   > >
>   > > Personal Responsibility.
>   > >
>   > > --
>   > > Best regards,
>   > > William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>
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