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Re: [ga] Names Policy Development Process
Dear Todd,
You rise an important issue. It has however a long legal, technical and
political roots and experience we are trying to build upon right now. You
might be interested to join as some other serious people about the
international stability, security and development of the network (see below).
On 17:28 27/07/02, todd glassey said:
>I still think that ICANN's biggest political and technical hurdle to leap
>is really what to do about other ROOT's.This may seem like a simple
>business question but it has far reaching ramifications that stretch
>throughout the entirety of what we know as the Internet.
>
>Further - it needs to be noted that ICANN can develop whatever it wants
>internally but if its processes are too oppressive and too painful to deal
>with, then these other ROOTS will certainly gain significant numbers of
>ICANN's existing customers and that is a serious issue to deal with.
>
>ICANN's trying to stop the operations of these other ROOTS is equally
>problematic since it ***will*** result in law suits and like restraining
>orders against ICANN, its officers and its agents (the Registrars and the
>ASO members) from prohibiting these other roots from functioning.
>Restraint of Trade is a pretty easy claim to prove here under today's
>circumstances.
A root is the plug of a sub namespace into the global namespace. So .arpa
is the ARPANET plug into the global namespace. The plug of the global
namespace into itself (the inclusive root) is the "." alone.
This notation comes from the fact that the DNS to support the Internet
current practice and parallel internal access and public service access had
to reverse the current global namespace semantic (ucla.arpa standing for
ARPAUCLA). This is the same as in ENUM. It created a confusion between IP
and X.121 naming schemes: the IP 12.34.56.78 could be confused with X121
78563412. Hence the global root sign at the end of the names. It meant the
string (even numeric) was part of the namespace and not from the IP
addressing. This way 90077.3106 from Internet was 301690077 (Dialog on
Tymnet). That reversing method at a "." has become quite universal in the
DNS (look at ENUM support). You will find echoes of this in the initial
RFCs using "root" (general) and "roots" (TLDs) wording.
The "." or global namespace was initially coordinated by Tymnet under FCC
valued added network services license through its IRC agreements with the
foreign monopoly services. All of them together formed the International
data network services system ("Intlnet"). This Intlnet delegated the
".arpa" sub namespace to the Internet team, the same it delegated many
other root names to others countries and organizations (this was only
providing a password to that name into the Tymnet validation system, under
standard FCC approved Tymcom or Tymnet/Tymnet rated services). Further on
it became also regulated by the ITU through the X.121 and E.164 standards.
Tymnet (Telenet and Uninet, the other public system Arpa connected) also
accepted the transit/access of calls from/to other sub namespaces, as per
the normal practice of open subnetworks. This is where com (Tymnet), net
(Telenet) come from.
All this was under rates, licenses, public interconnect agreements subject
to ITU and to international laws and rules and FCC licences for the US
parts. The constraints on the Internet and the possibilities for the
Internet community have been globally summarized in the RFC 920 by Jon
Postel in Oct 1984. This RFC has been strictly respected (in a restrictive
way) by the IANA up to now, so even if all this is 18 years old, it is the
current rule and the basis of the DNS: ICP-3 is wrong on many points, but
it is absolutely legitimate because it intends to describe the permanent
IANA policy. If it was not sticking to the 1984 agreement, it would have
needed a review by the DNSO, what the BoD denied. When Kent, Roberto oppose
the "alternative roots" they are right: there cannot be other roots within
he ".arpa" sub-namespace.
But there can be as many other non".arpa" roots in use (and the agreement
was that they would be respected) in the ".arpa" IP address system. To
understand that you have to recall that ARPA were the machines associated
into the US ARPA project. Yet among the identified users groups there were
the foreign Local Internet communities (ccTLDs) as /customers of the local
monopoly services.
These people were by no means local operators, but local customers of their
telecom services and connected registrants communities. They therefore were
only subject to the local association or university laws, with the task of
validating usernames with the local PTT (physical connections) and
registering names into the global naming system though the .arpa
sub-namespace. This means that if I wanted in France to access "inria.fr",
I had to connect Transpac, go into an Internet US gateway, and through an
Internet channel (may be using Transpac) to reach the INRIA system. Many
suffered from that limitations!
The ccTLD names were accepted as the ISO 3166 2 letters code because usage
on the namespace was to root local monopolies either/both in ISO 3166 3
letters codes and 4 numerics (DNIC) from the X.121 list. The RTC 920
mentions that ccTLDs and multiorganization TLDs (.arpa groups of
registrants wanting to form their own TLDs) were only registered and not
administered. This because their names had to be included into the global
TLD list (root names on the Tymnet supervisor or in the X.121 ITU list) and
because they could maintain relations outside of the control of Jon
Postel's team..
You have to realize that all this had much to do with rights, but with
billing. Root names were introduced to make sure we could easily bill the
issuer (registry) of the name in sorting the statistics. Anyway, this means
that ICANN is perfectly entitled to manage its root the way it does, to
support its own naming system except that it should include the roots into
the other sub namespaces - that was the deal - instead of refusing the
interconnects.
A part from being in an old forgotten deal, the reason why is that the
reasons of the deal are still here. And in not taking care, it leads to a
conflict with the ITU, NGO, Govs, Business communities it will lose.
The situation we face comes from changes in the situation:
1. the public systems deregulated, so national authority is no more with
PTT but with States. Mike and Stuart were technically correct in calling on
States but wrong in asking them to do what they should have imposed on them.
2. the ARPANET is no more, and there is now an IP system infrastructure
never paid by the ARPA or the USG, IANA still consider as its own -
creating an usurpation feeling.
3. the Tymnet supervisor is no more acting as the global root ".", the
".arpa", "gbr", ".fra" etc.. could plug into.
4. the national root names have been using their DNIC as a name (".fra" is
currently ".2080" +++) but due to the success of TCP/IP the ITU members are
interested in reusing them with most of their legitimate holders ignoring
their rights (borne from stability), creating confusion, uncertainty.
Example: obviously the EEC has nothing to do ask the ICANN about ".eu".
Just to inform it.
5. the telephone access which was included in the initial deal (Out-Dial
service) was not supported by the DNS until the ENUM project.
This calls for a lot adaptations. During the last 18 years the respect of
the RFC 920 created the "status quo" which benefits to the main Internet
providers. But the system is a 18 years old system shaped to serve 100
times less users, and expanding. Either its administrators get real and
reform the system accordingly or the system (which is a distributed
consensus) will reform itself (as China started doing).
IMHO the only way to do it in good order is to rebuild the Supervisor (the
global root system) so there is a stable and secure namespace reference
again (the "dot"). And the ".arpa" root may keep going the way it does
now. We have several good technical, operational, political, commercial
reasons to do that now. The ccTLDs, China, EEC, Govs, etc. have major
interests in it being done. Or already have started.
What is urgent IMHO is that we make sure it is done "a la Internet", by a
voluntary effort and not by on an ITU or USG managed budget. This is why we
are launching the "dot-root" project for a three parallel asynchronous root
servers systems next generation DNS+ experimentation. We call on who wants
to participate, sharing his DNS competence and one on-line machine. The
target is to experiment and then consensually implement a DNS.2
architecture, operations, policy, at root and user system level - able to
support the full "." namespace. Do you want to join?
>As a simple example, I allege that it is possible that ICANN is playing
>antitrust by locking out other Internet Standards Processes and
>organizations. This is simply demonstrated by that IANA will not issue a
>system port except to an organization that has an IETF RFC number. So no
>one from ITU or any of the other standards orgs can submit anything for
>the issuance of a System Port on the Global Internet unless they play
>ICANN's PSO Game and that is clearly anti-trust since ICANN does not own
>the Internet. Which simply says, that without the IETF/IESG/IAB processes
>in place, nothing gets codified as an Internet Standard and personally
>that is the largest load of BS anywhere.
May be we can have it another way. ICANN manages the Status Quo because
sticking to the RFC 920 and alleging that no one is now in charge of the
namespace, but the ITU which did not really took over yet, is helping some
to make stable returns. So it does not lead people to go ahead with major
innovations and make them better organize a technical status quo. And
freeze innovation.
Exemple: the key development to free the Internet from ICANN is a Windows
dns-resolver plug-in. No one on sourceforge even proposed it.
>Another concept here is that the Domain Owners are more the friend of the
>Registrars than ICANN is, and if you don't believe me, then ask Verisign
>how many bodies to GoDaddy they lost because GoDaddy is more friendly to
>end users at the wallet level. And most of the Domain Registrars don't
>realize this yet because we spend so much time arguing about personal sh*t
>and not the goals of the group.
May be the main thing is that we do not need the Registrars at all nor to
pay for DNs. It is surprising that no one works on the necessary development.
The "root intox" works well. This is brainware: what counts is not the way
the network is, but the way the peole believe it is to be used.
jfc
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