Re: Jeff Williams FAQ was Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ga] HMS...

["Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>]

"Using MapQuest: Notice there are no buildings at the address 5 E.
Kirkwood, Grapevine,TX (look at aerial view) - just a dirt farm"

Its actually more than a dirt farm now - there has been a lot of development
in that area and Sabre is building a massive complex at the end of East
Grapevine. Jeff's office is however still just a dirt lot...

See http://www.byte.org/jw/jwk1.jpg (Grapevine from the highway) ,
http://www.byte.org/jw/jwk2.jpg (the entrance to the new development that
the INEG office/datacenter/fiction is located) and
http://www.byte.org/jw/jwk3.jpg (the actual location of the INEG
office/datacenter/fiction) for a mini-tour.

Thanks,

-rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Osbourne" <gro@direct.ca>
To: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: Jeff Williams FAQ was Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ga] HMS...


> At 05:26 AM 05/08/02 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> >Gary Osbourne wrote:
> > > Oh really? Please point to where it was published before.
> >
> >   Well the archives for this ML have a huge amount of
> >references for instance. Start around '99 and go forward in
> >time from there.. Also the NCDNHC Archives
> >have substantial number of posts and other references
> >as well.
>
> Jeff, if you can't provide even minimal pointers to your
> claims, as you recently failed to do for Danny Younger on
> the RAA, then even if people otherwise had reason to
> believe you, they wouldn't believe you.
>
> The VeriSign/CENTR/.ac document, which is central to the
> article, has only recently been published, how could it
> appear in any archives in 1999? It is not mostly old info
> as you alleged in the body and title of your response.
> You are being misleading, and one can only assume that
> that is intentional as it happens so often.
>
> >   Yes I know. But Ted is credited with the article.
>
> http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=889&mode=nested&order=1
>
> No he isn't, I am as fnord, and have been since it was
> published. Ted is listed as the ICANNWatch editor who
> published it, and has been since it was published. Here
> you are repeating a false assertion I have already
> corrected you on once, you are again being misleading,
> so it must be intentional. See FAQ at bottom for various
> other examples of Jeff Williams being misleading. I
> didn't write the FAQ, but I think I'll help maintain
> and publish it.
>
> To answer WXW's GA list question, while certainly most
> here well know that Jeff Williams is a net.kook and
> being intentionally misleading is his stock in trade,
> on the ICANNAtLarge list he crossposted to (and perhaps
> at other crosspost destinations, what happened to the
> GA crosspost rule?) there are a number of folks (many
> new to the process) who are not at least initially
> aware of the facts regarding Jeff Williams. So I think
> it should be pointed out from time to time. If Jeff
> Williams continues to respond to my posts, and then
> crossposts them to all and sundry, I suppose I will
> continue to respond to some of his. I am sending this
> separately to various of his crossposts. -g
>
> ----
> Jeff Williams FAQ:
>
> Why is there no web site for an organization with 124,000 people?
> Because it doesn't exist.
>
> The first phone number he lists in his sig file, 972-244-3801,
> is "out of order".
>
> Grapevine, TX Chamber of Commerce has no record of INEG Group
> (The original author of this FAQ telephoned them).
> http://www.grapevinechamber.org/members.cfm?charpass=I
>
> Jeff Williams FAQs from other lists.
> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc03/msg00615.html
> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html
>
> Jeff Williams claiming to be a lawyer
> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html
>
> Non-existence of INEG
> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/02722.html
>
> Using MapQuest: Notice there are no buildings at the address 5 E.
> Kirkwood, Grapevine,TX (look at aerial view) - just a dirt farm
> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?dtype=a&mapdata=i8rr6UmMevOWYQS5T
> %2f7w9XJwfQLjuDnKO8qRCWArhD7DApDOxIMQcwX%2fNZAsafl7RuNybLS51jtuWSlOHLt
> GjEWmnimxXgLbWJGWc6Ju4KaHkfVdWm5UtCLI%2bQhZK7zU9R%2b8SEsWzV%2bfebExpAX
> T3CkWS2Tv%2bc8ApW%2bXSManTwDj7ygxpGxZXrFdrcrmPQyt6P9avifn21dMOVRmsyZ9w
> Z0C9iO2T0thh%2f8JcJJyEg8s46rDeIuQ0V753qW9SThHcWlAh2S24a2AYK7%2fI4bQY96
> 2uRJjH%2bhTFgvXPeZLTUxoX%2fr5VSKNrwzTmOED5u2dCGZb8t7dIjNh4mXmWYmwcMvmI
> 58XgfvOVDI7Xgm9%2bWnBWHOzTWsDVQ%3d%3d
>
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